Rios39
15 years ago

Does Rodgers make it to the finals if he didnt have such shitty Qbs to go against lol.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Oh this is priceless. Who is better on the right bracket? I'm assuming your argument would be Jay Cutler, who Rodgers beats in completion %, yards per attempt, TD, INT, and doubles him in very big plays (40+ yards). And Cutler has been a starting QB in this league for 2.5 years.

You could try to make a case, but it's hardly worthy of all those "lol's" you threw into your post.

I know it pains you to hear it, but Rodgers is good.

Not to mention, Cutler is a punk. 

It's sad that there are these fans who don't appreciate how cool of a QB they have playing for their team right now.

"dhazer" wrote:



It's called denial. And the ONLY reason he holds this immature "grudge" is because he was a big fan of the previous QB and doesn't want to ACCEPT that the replacement QB is one of the better QB's in the league.

It's not even arguable that Rodgers is one of the best young QB in the league. I think it's just time for these people to tip their hats and admit that Rodgers proved them wrong and is a very good QB.

I know it's hard to do people, but please use unbiased opinions as best as you can.
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

Does Rodgers make it to the finals if he didnt have such shitty Qbs to go against lol.

"Rios39" wrote:



Oh this is priceless. Who is better on the right bracket? I'm assuming your argument would be Jay Cutler, who Rodgers beats in completion %, yards per attempt, TD, INT, and doubles him in very big plays (40+ yards). And Cutler has been a starting QB in this league for 2.5 years.

You could try to make a case, but it's hardly worthy of all those "lol's" you threw into your post.

I know it pains you to hear it, but Rodgers is good.

Not to mention, Cutler is a punk. 

It's sad that there are these fans who don't appreciate how cool of a QB they have playing for their team right now.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



It's called denial. And the ONLY reason he holds this immature "grudge" is because he was a big fan of the previous QB and doesn't want to ACCEPT that the replacement QB is one of the better QB's in the league.

It's not even arguable that Rodgers is one of the best young QB in the league. I think it's just time for these people to tip their hats and admit that Rodgers proved them wrong and is a very good QB.

I know it's hard to do people, but please use unbiased opinions as best as you can.

"dhazer" wrote:




To be fair, I think it's more a simple dislike for Rodgers than it is an allegiance to the previous QB. I don't get why he dislikes Rodgers, but he's about as balanced on the whole circus last offseason as anyone around here, at least when he's not yanking chains trying to get a reaction.

Oh, and he wants the Pack to draft Harrel, so having a good young QB already in place messes w/ his dream (j/k on that last part, DH).
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15 years ago
I'm trying to imagine what it would have been like during the Favre era to have a poster (who wasn't a visiting Vikings fan) continuously belittle and criticize him any time his name was brought up in a thread. Favre is overrated lol. Favre can't finish a big game lol. Favre is the reason we didn't make the playoffs lol. I can't believe you guys think he's good lol. Here's to another 4-12 season with Favre lol.
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Stevetarded
15 years ago
Funny thing is if Matt Ryan was our QB this year he would be the one everyone was hating.
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dhazer
15 years ago
All im saying look at the brackets Rodgers against Russell, Quinn, and Edwards. Ryan had Cutler, Flacco, and Thigpen now you tell me who had it easier in their brackets. Russell,Quin and Edwards didnt even start all their games. Thats all i'm saying and your right i won't put Rodgers up there as an great qb hell it was 16 games every dog has its day. gimmie 3 or 4 years then we can talk. Now if they took out Russell and put in Cassell in that spot i don't think Rodgers don't make it out of the 1st round.



Ummm Mass how could people say Favre couldnt finish a game i think he did it in his first chance he had. Oops sorry to put a downer on that. And to be honest with you i think we could have put just about any qb that was in the league for 3 years into our offense and they would of put up similar numbers if not better. We were behind alot this year so we had to pass the ball alot and we have a pair of good wrs. But i'm not hating on Rodgers its just my opinion on that he had the easy side of the brackets and i'm sorry im not up Rodgers ass and claiming hes the next god.
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15 years ago

Now if they took out Russell and put in Cassell in that spot i don't think Rodgers don't make it out of the 1st round.

"dhazer" wrote:



Really? I would've thought...
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

Would last years team have been 13-3 if they gave up 380 points?

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Fascinating question. How many teams have gone 13-3 after giving up more than, say, 350 points? Can anyone recommend a searchable online relational database that would make finding this data out quick and efficient?
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Now if they took out Russell and put in Cassell in that spot i don't think Rodgers don't make it out of the 1st round.

"dhazer" wrote:



I agree with that ye. :p

Well, still, look at my last post. I don't know if you have an explanation for that.... I don't wanna bash you, because you're entitled to your own opinion. I'd just like an answer to the questions I asked you.
dhazer
15 years ago

Funny thing is if Matt Ryan was our QB this year he would be the one everyone was hating.

"Stevetarded" wrote:




I doubt it because Ryan went thru and still is going through alot of BS in Atlanta. They did a story on how alot of the fans are still in love with Vick but then again he just went in there kept his mouth shut and didn't make commands on the fans. So Rodgers isnt the only one that had to try and win over fans and to think the team he was drafted by added a rb and a new coach. I saw people say he had a great wr in White well White wasn't a great wr last year so that says something.

Ryan deserved winning this and i'm glad he did.


Also for you Rock the systems do make a difference The Packers are a pass first scheme believe it or not and the Falcons are run first. I'm not saying Ryan is a great qb but he i think is a good young Qb just like i think Rodgers is a good young qb.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Funny thing is if Matt Ryan was our QB this year he would be the one everyone was hating.

"dhazer" wrote:




I doubt it because Ryan went thru and still is going through alot of BS in Atlanta. They did a story on how alot of the fans are still in love with Vick but then again he just went in there kept his mouth shut and didn't make commands on the fans. So Rodgers isnt the only one that had to try and win over fans and to think the team he was drafted by added a rb and a new coach. I saw people saw he had a great wr in White well White wasn't a great wr last year so that says something.

Ryan deserved winning this and i'm glad he did.

"Stevetarded" wrote:


Receptions Yards Average Long TDs
83 1,202 14.5 69T 6

I think White was a pretty great WR last year. Those where his stats.... with all kinds of random QBs playing.

Ryan is good, don't get me wrong, but he wasn't near Rodgers if you ask me. He played good, especially for a rookie. His numbers are trailing Rodgers' in every way though. Only thing Rodgers has going for him are multiple good receivers, while Ryan has to pretty much rely on one player. He has the better O-line, Running game and one receiver who's just as good as Jennings at this point.

I don't know if you liked Ryan better this year, or that you mean he has more potential than Rodgers, because that would make some sense, I guess. I don't see how you can say Ryan has been the better QB this year looking at my previously mentioned points.

I'd really like to see some points as to why Ryan is better, because I don't want to sound like I'm just bashing on you here all the time. All I've heared so far though is just talk or false arguments.....

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Also for you Rock the systems do make a difference The Packers are a pass first scheme believe it or not and the Falcons are run first.

"dhazer" wrote:



Yes, I know and I agree on that. He does, however, have about the same amount of ints on way less attempts. That while a run-first defense should draw defenders into the box and make it easier for the QB to complete his passes when he has to throw the ball. And like you've most likely seen yourself, they have had alot of 8 man fronts, whereas the Packers, even against the Bears, had only 6-7 man fronts.

I'm not saying Ryan is a great qb but he i think is a good young Qb just like i think Rodgers is a good young qb.

"dhazer" wrote:



It's getting somewhat hard to me to see where you stand on this point now though. If that's how you think about it, I don't know why we're making such a big deal out of it. Both are up and comming QBs. Rodgers had the better season, but there's no telling what both will do in the upcomming years. I guess we'll see in a couple of years.
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