dhazer
15 years ago

I think the running game got them to the playoffs. Ryan is good but he didn't get them to the playoffs.

"DGB454" wrote:




Was he not the qb that started every game? The answer is yes so he led them to the playoffs plain and simple.

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So the QB is always the leader of the team? Always give the QB credit for wins? Ask a Vikings fan if their starting QB for most of their wins this season were wins because of their QB?

"DGB454" wrote:




Thats how it works in the NFL the qb is the leader of the offense he is praised for wins and blamed for losses, just how it goes.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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HoustonMatt
15 years ago


Thats how it works in the NFL the qb is the leader of the offense he is praised for wins and blamed for losses, just how it goes.

"dhazer" wrote:



That's how it works in the media, which doesn't make it correct.
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15 years ago
how did matt ryan beat jay cutler?
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wils0646
15 years ago

how did matt ryan beat jay cutler?

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Because Jay Cutler couldn't play defense on the Broncos. He gets the blame, however.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
because Matt Ryan is cute and Jay Cutler is fugly.
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go.pack.go.
15 years ago

because Matt Ryan is cute and Jay Cutler is fugly.

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Uh ooohhh...is someone coming out of the closet?



















JK...
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Packers_Finland
15 years ago
A QB is not the leader of a team, and he doesn't always get blamed for the team's defense.

Matt Ryan is was not as big of a factor in the Falcons playoff team than Michael Turner was. Turner was more impressive, consistent and Ryan's pass was based on setting up the run first, then faking to Turner.
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nathaniel
15 years ago
If we're talking about upside, I think Rodgers is the better young QB. But if we're talking solely about this season, Ryan wins hands down. No question.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Matt Ryan threw 16 TDs against 11 INTs. That's not impressive. Period. Our standards are truly low if we put him in the same sentence with Aaron Rodgers. The fact is the Falcons rushed for 2443 yards and 23 TDs. Michael Turner carried that team on his shoulders. Matt Ryan would have been branded a first-round bust without Turner's Herculean performance.
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djcubez
15 years ago
Let's take a look at the box score from this year's Atl-GB game.

M. Ryan 16-26, 61.7 comp%, 2 TD, 1 INT, 94.1 QB Rating
A. Rodgers 25-37, 67.6 comp%, 3 TD, 1 INT, 109.4 QB Rating

I guess you can't lose with either. Seriously though, I would take Rodgers as my QB over Ryan just because he's had more experience in the NFL. Nothing against Ryan, he's been amazing for a rookie that inherited that team.
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packerfanoutwest (12h) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
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