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10 years ago

One problem with this suspend now, ask questions later deal with these cases made public so quickly is this. All a woman has to do is call the cops and claim the guy hit her and he is going to jail. Period. They sort things out later. If found innocent or case is dropped, the association of guilt is already placed on the guy. This opens him up for MORE false accusations. I think the negative trend is apparent.

As I said, this goes for anyone, not just celebrities.

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



OH COME ON NOW!!! A woman would NEVER falsely accuse a man of wrong doing.
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OlHoss1884
10 years ago

OH COME ON NOW!!! A woman would NEVER falsely accuse a man of wrong doing.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



At least in the Marshawn Lynch case, they arrested her.
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Pack93z
10 years ago

One problem with this suspend now, ask questions later deal with these cases made public so quickly is this. All a woman has to do is call the cops and claim the guy hit her and he is going to jail. Period. They sort things out later. If found innocent or case is dropped, the association of guilt is already placed on the guy. This opens him up for MORE false accusations. I think the negative trend is apparent.

As I said, this goes for anyone, not just celebrities.

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Again, in my opinion, if there is enough to charge the player, I see no problem with making them inactive and letting the legal situation play out. Player still is getting paid his contract, just the team can protect itself if he truly is guilty. And it isn't a suspension.. it is inactivating them from the team; suspensions in the NFL are without pay.

I agree, you don't deactivate a player based on a accusation or arrest.. but if the DA / courts see enough to charge the player; I think the NFL and or team have the right to not have that player represent them upon the field until the legal matter is resolved.

But another question in this regards.. what should be done to teams that cut a bubble type player upon an arrest?
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sschind
10 years ago

If I made it sound that way, I wasn't clear. I am saying that in the NFL, since it's a private organization, the burden of proof isn't the same, and you don't have the same right of due process.

It isn't presumption of guilt, but if you got arrested, your story better hold water.


Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



I understand and I agree that the standards the NFL uses are not the same as in a court of law and they need not be. There may be things a player does that would not be criminal but might still be cause for dismissal by the team or the league because they portray the league in a negative way. Examples might be legal gambling done in Vegas perhaps or excessive partying and generally being a totally obnoxious a-hole without actually breaking the law or being charged with anything (The Riley Cooper racist comments come to mind)


What I thought you were saying is that if a guy is accused he's gone no matter what because it sheds a bad light on your team simply because of the accusation. Maybe that's what I misunderstood, that you wouldn't give him the chance to prove his story held water.

Pack93z
10 years ago
Bucs director of player development Isaiah Harris was let go today after getting arrested last night for a DUI. Not limited to players.
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