TT's TEAM ! · PACKERSHOME

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

All NFL teams draft players. Usually that is a team effort as to who to pick. GB , being publicly owned , places it's future in a few people. Yet the credit for finding an Aaron Rodgers or C.Matthews or E.Lacy or hiring J.Peppers ends up with TT.
When a B.J Raji or B.Bulaga goes down, as should be anticipated, we look for the next player to step up. However if that step is just a half, we look everywhere but at Ted Thompson to blame. Ted Thompson has a nice job, all the glory and none of the blame. Damn, I'd like to have a job like that. [twocents]

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DakotaT
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10 years ago

TT gets plenty of blame. Be in here after a bad loss sometime.

DoddPower
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Wait, Ted Thompson gets "all the glory and none of the blame"??? Where have you been since he has been hired? FireTedThompson.com anyone?

Smokey
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10 years ago

TT gets plenty of blame. Be in here after a bad loss sometime.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

So the Seattle & Detroit losses weren't bad ?

I get so frustrated when Ted Thompson slides on things , that IMO , he is responsible for. Allowing both Pickett & Jolly to depart was a bad gamble on Guion and Pennell . Promoting Luther Robinson is fine, but the Packers still gave up 111 yds on 25 carries to the Vikings. I'm just tired of TT's ," things will get better if we just trust the cheap, youth based method" . I prefer the," I'm fixing the problem right now before it gets worse method". If the house is on fire, standing around saying "ain't the fire pretty" doesn't put the fire out. Ted Thompson is reactive, I believe in being proactive. Replacing Pickett & Jolly was a poor move. I'd have kept Pickett and Pennell as insurance against Raji going down. Pickett(for proven experience) and Pennell (youth for the future). Hiring Guion was a mistake and is now biting the Packers in the defence.

uffda udfa
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10 years ago

TT will forever be on honeymoon due to the SB win in Dallas. That is how Packers fans are wired.

The objectivity goes completely out the window and scrutiny is never even considered. Ted Thompson has done some good things but drafting a no brainer superstar QB pick in Round 1 does NOT excuse the litany of mistakes made under his watch.

To suffer at the hands of the pitiful defense assembled with countless high draft picks is squarely on him.

When he's finally out of here only then he'll be looked at properly. That is what happened under Mike Sherman. Couldn't count the number of times I heard fans quote the record and compare Shermy with Vince. Now, that Sherman is gone, he is accurately viewed for what he was...not very good despite a record achieved on the back of Brett Favre. One day, Ted Thompson will be seen as a man who rode Rodgers coattails and drove this proud franchise into the ground.

It just takes time.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

So the Seattle & Detroit losses weren't bad ?

I get so frustrated when Ted Thompson slides on things , that IMO , he is responsible for. Allowing both Pickett & Jolly to depart was a bad gamble on Guion and Pennell . Promoting Luther Robinson is fine, but the Packers still gave up 111 yds on 25 carries to the Vikings. I'm just tired of TT's ," things will get better if we just trust the cheap, youth based method" . I prefer the," I'm fixing the problem right now before it gets worse method". If the house is on fire, standing around saying "ain't the fire pretty" doesn't put the fire out. Ted Thompson is reactive, I believe in being proactive. Replacing Pickett & Jolly was a poor move. I'd have kept Pickett and Pennell as insurance against Raji going down. Pickett(for proven experience) and Pennell (youth for the future). Hiring Guion was a mistake and is now biting the Packers in the defence.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

So what are the Packers supposed to do in October? Pickett went into week 4 before being picked up on waivers. Was he really THAT good of an option? How about we go out and sign J.J. Watt right now?

The decision to move on from Pickett and Jolly was made WELL in advance of signing Guion or Pennell.

I'm not apologizing for Ted, but to blame him because he didn't keep Pickett and Jolly hurts your argument

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

Originally Posted by: musccy

Had you read my post, I said the Packers should have gone with Raji, Pickett, and Pennell. Dropping both was a mistake.

What to do today ? Well it's too late to actually fix Guion, Pennell could only do better. He does have the size advantage on Guion. I'll let the J.J.Watt remark slide . 😳

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

I'd take Ted over most GMs in the league. I'll just leave it at that. He's definitely in the top 10 of GMs for me. Maybe not top 5, but close.

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texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

10 years ago

As I've said before, Ted gets blame from me for not maximizing things. I'm for draft and develop as much as most people, but Thompson sometimes is too rigid about it. He also tends to be a little too satisfied with mediocre players at times. We are winning because we have the world's greatest QB - yeah, Thompson gets credit for that. But we are doing it with an offensive line that even in a good week, ain't as good as it could/should be and a defense which did the job two weeks in a row now, but still needs to do a lot more to prove it is consistently good.

Thompson will continue to do the job his way, and that will be good enough as long as we have Aaron Rodgers. If Ted is still around after the end of the Rodgers era, though, his ways and his stubbornness in those ways may result in a team that gets exposed for mediocrity now masked by having Rodgers.

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musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Smokey

My j.j. watt comment is pointing out that we are where we are right now. Ted can't do much about it in October, and if Pickett was such a necessary commodity, why did he go January to late September unsigned by 32 teams?

I didn't love what they did with line either. I have also come to realize the team was going to utilize Neal, Peppers, and Perry in a d - line -like role so any commentary on TT's handling of the d line needs to consider their impact.

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