Zero2Cool
10 years ago
What area of improvement do you want to see this coming weekend against the Lions?

I'm going to be eyeing our Tackle position. David Bakhtiari and Derek Sherrod are ranked 57th and 66th out of 66 Tackles on ProFootballFocus.com out of players who played 25% snaps.

That's pretty awful right there and I think it directly relates to the lack of production from Eddie Lacy.
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10 years ago
Run defense. It is a second to most pathetic right now. They are giving up 176 yards per game. A whopping 4.8 per carry. Since some people only care about scores they are second to last by allowing 4 rushing tds.
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Rockmolder
10 years ago
Lines. Either side.

You build from the lines back, with the exception of a QB.

The problem with that on the D-line is that you've already invested quite some picks there and have some young guys in the rotation. And I imagine that we're still pretty hopeful about a guy like Datone Jones making a leap forward.

Another NT would be nice, though. If he's too good to take off the field next year when Raji is healthy, you can just play them both. Next to that, a 330+ guy can use some rotation.

An OT would be nice, as well. Bulaga is decent, but I'd like to keep him on the right... If he comes back, that is, with FA coming up this year.

Our current tackles shouldn't be starting on any team. Sherrod, especially, has been a huge letdown.
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

What area of improvement do you want to see this coming weekend against the Lions?

I'm going to be eyeing our Tackle position. David Bakhtiari and Derek Sherrod are ranked 57th and 66th out of 66 Tackles on ProFootballFocus.com out of players who played 25% snaps.

That's pretty awful right there and I think it directly relates to the lack of production from Eddie Lacy.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You got that right! When I first saw the question, I was gonna say O Line, but narrowing it down to the Tackles is better. I don't have a high opinion of Bakhtiari - I guess that 57th ranking backs it up. I think Sherrod will gradually get better; Bakhtiari I'm less hopeful for.


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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
McCarthy play calling. Time to call plays that help your players.

Defensive player simply make plays. Amazing how much better the defense gets when players actually make the plays they are being paid to make.
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yooperfan
10 years ago

What area of improvement do you want to see this coming weekend against the Lions?

I'm going to be eyeing our Tackle position. David Bakhtiari and Derek Sherrod are ranked 57th and 66th out of 66 Tackles on ProFootballFocus.com out of players who played 25% snaps.

That's pretty awful right there and I think it directly relates to the lack of production from Eddie Lacy.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Absolutely the offensive line.
It all starts in the trenches and if there is not improvement in this offensive line the offense is going to struggle.

warhawk
10 years ago
I'm not ready to throw the Oline under the bus yet. Those were two solid front 7's they just faced. Talented and aggressive units. The front 7 of the Jets is by far the strong point of that team yet Rodgers was often afforded loads of time to get a pass off. Yes, there was pressure at times but I will say a couple of times it was on Rodgers.
I know on one play the LB on the right side was coming after Aaron Rodgers and was uncovered. It was obvious he was going to rush the QB and there was no one there to block him. Normally Rodgers see's this and either gets somebody on that player or he adjusts the play and makes a quick throw but he did neither and got sacked. Now maybe that was on Bakhitiari but I don't think so in that case.

Teams are going to go after Rodgers. They know they have to. If he's given the time he needs 3 or four plays out of 5 I consider it a win. Especially under the circumstances after giving up 21 points and getting down so early in the Jets game. Not like everyone in the stadium didn't know it was up to Rodgers to pull that game out.

Games like that does an Oline no favors.
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10 years ago
Well, personally I want an OL that handles the top defenses.

Sorry, warhawk, but saying "they were tough defenses" is the wrong attitude for the team to take. (I'm okay with a fan thinking that, but sure hope the team isn't thinking that.

In my opinion if the best quarterback in the league and one of the best young runners in the league don't have a dominant line in front of them, that line needs improvement.

I'm not sure whether OL or DL needs most, though. Based on what I have seen (which doesn't count the Jets game), both need a lot of improvement.
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TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago
The problem at OT is injuries so that will hopefully improve. The play at ILB is mediocore. I don't care how many people say that Hawk makes hundreds of tackles a year. He makes the tackle because he was late getting there in the first place to disrupt the play. Having a badass guy in the middle lighting guys up and making them nervous would be so nice. It seems that the big play on us is always over the middle where we are soft (though hoping to see improvement on the Safety side with HHCD) it gets so predictable when you can call the 3rd and long play the opponent will run on us to pick up the first down.
PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

The problem at OT is injuries so that will hopefully improve. The play at ILB is mediocore. I don't care how many people say that Hawk makes hundreds of tackles a year. He makes the tackle because he was late getting there in the first place to disrupt the play. Having a badass guy in the middle lighting guys up and making them nervous would be so nice. It seems that the big play on us is always over the middle where we are soft (though hoping to see improvement on the Safety side with HHCD) it gets so predictable when you can call the 3rd and long play the opponent will run on us to pick up the first down.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Why are so many runners getting to our ILBers in the first place? Are we keeping our ILBers closer to the LOS because of how weak our Dline is. Seems either the RB blows through the line and than is on top of our backers, or bounces outside and is on our LBers.
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