IronMan
10 years ago
Mike McCarthy's halfime speech: "The defense will be better in the 2nd half. You can put that in big letters."
nerdmann
10 years ago

I don't disagree with anything you are saying. I think he's a good coach, but not a great coach. I would like a bit more of a hard-ass. But the Packers offense will be OK. My biggest problem with him is keeping the likes of Dom Capers around. That's borderline inexcusable, imo.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



A little accountability would go a long way.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
10 years ago


McCarthy: You may not flat-out bench somebody, but I think sometimes you … you don’t really play with 11. There’s plenty of instances where you may only play a guy in base instead of sub or vice-versa. Position has a lot to do with it. Your backup has a lot to do with it. That’s a good question. I’ve never thought about it. To me, I trust the evaluation of the coaches. We sit here and they say, ‘Hey, this is who I think should play this week.’ There have been guys benched on special teams a number of times.[/b][/u]

---He's NEVER thought about it?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Do you, uffda udfa, honestly believe that Mike has never thought about benching a player? Really? Did you also know that Bill Clinton never had "sexual relations" with that woman?


uffda udfa
10 years ago

Do you, uffda udfa, honestly believe that Mike has never thought about benching a player? Really? Did you also know that Bill Clinton never had "sexual relations" with that woman?


Originally Posted by: musccy 



Well, I've seen it quoted, today, that...YOU CAN WRITE IT DOWN IN BIG LETTERS THE DEFENSE WILL BE BETTER.

Every single quote out of Mike McCarthy is a lie going forward because some feel the need to defend Mike McCarthy by saying he's lying here. I have no such need. Why do you...and I don't?

If you think Mike McCarthy is a liar about this statement, then why do you take him at his word on the other? Hypocrisy.

BTW, I'm not sure you understand the term "sexual relations".

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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


musccy
10 years ago

Well, I've seen it quoted, today, that...YOU CAN WRITE IT DOWN IN BIG LETTERS THE DEFENSE WILL BE BETTER.

Every single quote out of Mike McCarthy is a lie going forward because some feel the need to defend Mike McCarthy by saying he's lying here. I have no such need. Why do you...and I don't?

If you think Mike McCarthy is a liar about this statement, then why do you take him at his word on the other? Hypocrisy.

BTW, I'm not sure you understand the term "sexual relations".

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



For many organizations, getting info from the GM, HC, or any coordinator needs to, at best, be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. You don't want to reveal your hand. You don't want to throw your own player or coach under the bus. You can't reveal that you already traded Kevin Love to the Cavs before you're allowed to trade him. You don't want to add bulletin board material for the opponent. You don't have as accurate information as the press would like (e.g. injury reports prior to MRIs).

We all know this. I know you know this. [wallme]
nerdmann
10 years ago

Do you, uffda udfa, honestly believe that Mike has never thought about benching a player? Really? Did you also know that Bill Clinton never had "sexual relations" with that woman?


Originally Posted by: musccy 



They've outright released guys in the past.

Most recently Jeremy Ross last year. They cut Rouse after two games that one year.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
uffda udfa
10 years ago

For many organizations, getting info from the GM, HC, or any coordinator needs to, at best, be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. You don't want to reveal your hand. You don't want to throw your own player or coach under the bus. You can't reveal that you already traded Kevin Love to the Cavs before you're allowed to trade him. You don't want to add bulletin board material for the opponent. You don't have as accurate information as the press would like (e.g. injury reports prior to MRIs).

We all know this. I know you know this. [wallme]

Originally Posted by: musccy 



What information would Mike McCarthy be protecting with that answer? What bulletin board material would an opponent gain? Your explanation of your point makes no sense in the context of how he non-answered that specific question.

I know what coach speak is... however, there was no reason to be engaging in coach speak to that specific question.
Mike McCarthy doesn't have anything to do with the releasing of players, though...that is TT's arena.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


nerdmann
10 years ago

Well to quote Mike McCarthy in his own words... (when not directed towards the media).



Lets be honest players and coaches lie to the media... but at times the media catches them saying things they don't mean to be public... and I think McCarthy has benched people... like 1st round CB, last 1st round pick of Sherman as GM (don't want to remember his name)... RB Wynn after too many fumbles one game and I'm sure there are others as well.


Originally Posted by: beast 



The main problem stems from the way they show respect to veterans. They kept Driver for a whole extra year. That goes back to the early days of this staff.

Wouldn't mind them holding the DC accountable too, while we're at it.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
10 years ago

What information would Mike McCarthy be protecting with that answer? What bulletin board material would an opponent gain? Your explanation of your point makes no sense in the context of how he non-answered that specific question.

I know what coach speak is... however, there was no reason to be engaging in coach speak to that specific question.

Mike McCarthy doesn't have anything to do with the releasing of players, though...that is TT's arena.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I was just listing examples of when coaches may not be truthful, not saying it necessarily applied in this specific situation. Like nerd said, he's had people cut the week of a poor performance, so you really think he hasn't thought about benching a player before? What happened with harris in the kick returns v. Seattle?

He was probably just trying to avoid a trap of being asked about Brad Jones being benched, something no coach would want to talk about a current player in public.

I'm not even trying to stick up for m.m. I'm just saying this particular example is a bad one to use if you're trying to find a "gotcha" moment.
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