musccy
10 years ago

Who would Elliot, Pennel, and Janis replace on the active roster? I can probably agree that Pennel should have been active, but keeping all those guys active could leave a position or two super thin. It's complicated.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Exactly. If we could activate 53 players it's pretty easy...When you have to declare 7 to be weekly bench warmers it gets much more challenging. By the way, if anyone can tell me why the nfl has a 46 game day roster, I'd love to hear why.

Anyway, it's not worth a roster spot to just have someone return a kick, he better be ready to do a lot more. Same with Elliot. He's a udfa the week of facing the ST champs, no wonder he wasn't activated.
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Exactly. If we could activate 53 players it's pretty easy...When you have to declare 7 to be weekly bench warmers it gets much more challenging. By the way, if anyone can tell me why the nfl has a 46 game day roster, I'd love to hear why.

Anyway, it's not worth a roster spot to just have someone return a kick, he better be ready to do a lot more. Same with Elliot. He's a udfa the week of facing the ST champs, no wonder he wasn't activated.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Try Guion and Brad Jones hahahaha. Yeah, I know hindsight is 20/20, but those two were predictable to suck. A helluva lot of other teams play talented new players - with success. The hyper-cautious mode of the Packers gets a little old sometimes.

I would suggest it IS worth a roster spot to have someone just return kicks - not that Janis wouldn't be an improvement at Wideout too, and having somebody that can go in on clear passing situations and be a lot more likely to sack the QB? A big hell yeah to that too.
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musccy
10 years ago

Try Guion and Brad Jones hahahaha. Yeah, I know hindsight is 20/20, but those two were predictable to suck. A helluva lot of other teams play talented new players - with success. The hyper-cautious mode of the Packers gets a little old sometimes.

I would suggest it IS worth a roster spot to have someone just return kicks - not that Janis wouldn't be an improvement at Wideout too, and having somebody that can go in on clear passing situations and be a lot more likely to sack the QB? A big hell yeah to that too.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



As much as I've ripped the guy, I was disappointed to see Pennel not active, so I agree with you on the game day caution to an extent. I'm just willing to be a little more sympathetic with the Packers. They already by necessity were throwing Linsley to the wolves, I'm sure they wanted to minimize their inexperience, though.

I disagree on a KR specialist. The position has been so marginalized by the new kickoff rules, you're almost better off just kneeling every play. I'd much rather use someone that is ready to be a solid contributor in other aspects. I agree with the concept of having someone like D Harris even if he was necessarily benched.

Going forward, we don't see daily practices, it's hard for us to say that Barrington, Lattimore, Pennel, etc. are definitively better than the goats we rag on in here...but I sure as hell would like some assurance that the Packer staff is in fact fielding the best 11 on D.

Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

As much as I've ripped the guy, I was disappointed to see Pennel not active, so I agree with you on the game day caution to an extent. I'm just willing to be a little more sympathetic with the Packers. They already by necessity were throwing Linsley to the wolves, I'm sure they wanted to minimize their inexperience, though.

I disagree on a KR specialist. The position has been so marginalized by the new kickoff rules, you're almost better off just kneeling every play. I'd much rather use someone that is ready to be a solid contributor in other aspects. I agree with the concept of having someone like D Harris even if he was necessarily benched.

Going forward, we don't see daily practices, it's hard for us to say that Barrington, Lattimore, Pennel, etc. are definitively better than the goats we rag on in here...but I sure as hell would like some assurance that the Packer staff is in fact fielding the best 11 on D.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



What confuses me about Pennel being inactive is with the whole "smaller and faster" line philosophy, you need bodies to rotate to keep guys fresh. I know they like to pretend that Peppers and Neal are dlineman but that's just stretching the definition around.
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Packnic
10 years ago
No... the Packers should not consider anything yet. It was one impossible road game with a new defense. We have no idea what it can do yet.
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Cheesey
10 years ago

No... the Packers should not consider anything yet. It was one impossible road game with a new defense. We have no idea what it can do yet.

Originally Posted by: Packnic 



True.....all we know is what it CAN'T do.....stop the run or the pass![grin1]

(I'm just trying to make a joke.....don't take what I said here seriously!)
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beast
10 years ago

By the way, if anyone can tell me why the nfl has a 46 game day roster, I'd love to hear why

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I'll do my best...

I think because they decided on 45 man game day rosters (why 45? I have no idea) with 8 developmental spots on the roster (making it add up to 53) and with that 8 developmental spots for the practice squad. The only benefit I've heard of being one of the non-active guys is that it keeps your eligibility for the practice squad.

So I think the idea was to have 45 guys active and they rest are mainly developments spots in case of injury and for them to grow and get better.

From there most teams had 3 QBs (2 on the active list) and the question become what happens when both those QBs get injured... why isn't there some rule that lets us put the 3rd QB in... so they made a rule saying the 3rd QB can come in off the inactive roster... IF and ONLY IF... they first two are done for the rest of the game.

Then complains for that system came and NFL said this rule is odd... they didn't like it so they then make it more simple and changed 45 to 46 and said if you don't use that extra spot for a 3rd QB then it's your own darn fault / problem...

And now the NFL changed up the practice squad to 10 guys and changed the rules too it...


Honestly I think the NFL should make it more simple and have all 53 man game day rosters active and base practice squad eligibility some other way... maybe number of years you've been signed with an NFL team... active 53 or practice squad and just say you have 3 or 4 years or something... before you're no longer allowed to be on the practice squad.

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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Roster limit is 53 and you can activate 46 is to ensure that both teams have the same amount of "healthy" players.
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