uffda udfa
10 years ago
I understand. Again, though, the reasons I gave to do it where never countered properly. Side issues were raised. The 10% thing is a fact and can't be challenged. So, in essence dealing 2 1st's for a superstar is not crazy, even though I was told that is was, repeatedly. I understand you may not think Graham is as good as I think he is...that is one thing, but to say "nobody ever did it" so it's stupid is what's stupid. History is on my side. Someone reading would be moving quickly to the cap side or losing Cobb or some side issue. None of that is a given. The "that's dumb"...or "we'll lose Cobb"..."too much cap"...are all things that are not factual reasons not to do it. Anything can be dumb to anyone if that's what they want it to be. I just think it's easily defendable to do this above the strong objections to the contrary.

Here's the latest...no appeal?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/14/appeal-of-graham-ruling-not-expected/ 
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uffda udfa
10 years ago
Jimmy G. did appeal after all... and then there's this from Adam Schefter...

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PWT36
10 years ago

Jimmy G. did appeal after all... and then there's this from Adam Schefter...

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Saints and Jimmy Graham closing in on long-term deal to make him highest-paid TE in NFL history. Now optimism deal done by Tues deadline.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



uffda udfa

Today (Tuesday) Jimmy Graham reached a 4 year deal, $40m with the Saints. The Star New Orleans receiver will get $20 to $21m guaranteed over the 4 year contract Graham is now the highest paid Tight end in the NFL.

This 4 year deal will Graham will give him a shot at Free Agency when is 31 years old. So ends your topic about the Packers making a trade with Saints for Graham. Of coarse, every knowledgeable Packer fan knew The Packers would never make a trade with the Saints for Graham.

uffda udfa
10 years ago

uffda udfa

Today (Tuesday) Jimmy Graham reached a 4 year deal, $40m with the Saints. The Star New Orleans receiver will get $20 to $21m guaranteed over the 4 year contract Graham is now the highest paid Tight end in the NFL.

This 4 year deal will Graham will give him a shot at Free Agency when is 31 years old. So ends your topic about the Packers making a trade with Saints for Graham. Of coarse, every knowledgeable Packer fan knew The Packers would never make a trade with the Saints for Graham.

Originally Posted by: PWT36 



LOL! Yes, I saw that. I guess you're referring to me, as well. I knew this wouldn't happen...but I would've done it. The question was would YOU trade for Jimmy Graham? The answer was yes and still is yes even though I knew we wouldn't be doing it.


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steveishere
10 years ago
I guess none of the great minds in the NFL thought it was such a good idea.
uffda udfa
10 years ago

I guess none of the great minds in the NFL thought it was such a good idea.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I guess the illusion that you're going to find 2 Jimmy Graham's in the 1st round was too strong... we know, in our case, the odds of getting a player the caliber of Jimmy Graham next year will be 10% or less. I know, personally, I'd rather fight to the death that I'd rather have Sherrod and Nick Perry over Jimmy Graham.

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TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago

I guess the illusion that you're going to find 2 Jimmy Graham's in the 1st round was too strong... we know, in our case, the odds of getting a player the caliber of Jimmy Graham next year will be 10% or less. I know, personally, I'd rather fight to the death that I'd rather have Sherrod and Nick Perry over Jimmy Graham.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Actually all you need to find a 1/2 Jimmy Craham in the first round for 2 years. And you can still spend $10M on a free agent.

uffda udfa
10 years ago

Actually all you need to find a 1/2 Jimmy Craham in the first round for 2 years. And you can still spend $10M on a free agent.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Right, you get two swings with a 10% chance, each and a 54% chance with each of those that they'll be players who aren't busts like Jamal Reynolds or Justin Harrell. So, you'll probably get one decent starter vs. pairing a superstar with Aaron in the backside of his prime.


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StarrMax1
10 years ago

Right, you get two swings with a 10% chance, each and a 54% chance with each of those that they'll be players who aren't busts like Jamal Reynolds or Justin Harrell. So, you'll probably get one decent starter vs. pairing a superstar with Aaron in the backside of his prime.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Congratulations you have managed to spam this forum for 2 weeks, with all your useless minutia content and you convinced absolutely no one that Jimmy Graham was worth 2 1st rnd picks and 10 mil a year.

You Go Boy!!!!!!

Hey now you can turn all your attention to The Packers letting Ted Thompson walk.

Oh lord i just realized Ted is signed through 2015, which means you have 2 years to bring up meaningless and useless stats trying to convince the Packer nation that, "by god this time I AM RIGHT, and you all are wrong".

Hell that thread may reach 100 pages!!!!!!

Go for it, If anything, you can be proud everytime you log on to see your name at the top of THE post list!!!

CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!
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DakotaT
10 years ago
I'm starting to think StarrMax1 doesn't care for Uffda! Hey Zero, make yourself useful and lock this sucker down. Graham signed for 4 X $40M.
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