Would you trade for Jimmy Graham?· Page 26

mi_keys
Senior Member

10 years ago

#251

The 10% thing is a fact and can't be challenged.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Javon Walker was as talented, if not more talented than any WR Ted Thompson drafted.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Right, you get two swings with a 10% chance, each and a 54% chance with each of those that they'll be players who aren't busts like Jamal Reynolds or Justin Harrell.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

By the way, that "statistic" you keep posting as objective fact (the one that is really just some asshole on the internet that listed every player for a 10 year period as either a bust or a hit with no discussion on methodology or reasoning) cites Javon Walker as a bust.

Born and bred a cheesehead

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#252

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

I agree with him...Javon Walker was a bust due to injury. As talented as we've seen in Green Bay in a long time, though.

Anyone who follows the draft for any period of years knows it's hard finding stud players in the draft in any round even the first. It was no shock to me that it's about a 50-50 proposition you're going to hit on a guy. and way less that they'll be a true superstar. I think that's pretty common sense if you've watched enough drafts.

I'll count Ha Ha as one of the first rounders we could've dealt for Graham and then see who we get next year and see in a few years if it would've been smarter to have Ha Ha and next year's #1 or Jimmy G. My money is Jimmy G. being the better of the two options.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

mi_keys
Senior Member

10 years ago

#253

I agree with him...Javon Walker was a bust due to injury. As talented as we've seen in Green Bay in a long time, though.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Yet you were happy to point him out in defense of Sherman...

And the fact that Walker was a bust largely, if not entirely due to injury, is important context for that subjective opinion you keep asserting as objective fact.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#254

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

Yes, I was happy to point him out in defense of Sherman and I stand by what I said about him...Javon Walker was as talented of a WR as we've seen in Green Bay in a long time and sadly injury ruined the guy.

I appreciate your misguided obsession with trying to prove me wrong at every turn but you're doing yourself a disservice with posts like this.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

mi_keys
Senior Member

10 years ago

#255

I appreciate your misguided obsession with trying to prove me wrong at every turn but you're doing yourself a disservice with posts like this.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

😆 You're comedic gold, mate.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#256

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

That is quite true about Javon Walker. He had all the physical tools and talent you could dream of in a WR. He just didn't have much mental fortitude and that was part of his downfall.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#257

😆 You're comedic gold, mate.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

I have a long long way to go to reach your level but will never give up.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#258

Apparently someone was willing to trade for him after all.

Yerko
Senior Member

9 years ago

#259

Apparently someone was willing to trade for him after all.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I get Jimmy Graham is good and all but that seems like an awful lot to get him. Trading away the anchor of your offensive line (Russell already has to scramble a lot) and your 1st round pick that you could have easily used on Maxx Williams?

To each their own, I guess.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#260

Don't sign Bulaga and bring Jimmy in...awww, but too late. Winners make moves like this.

I do think Jimmy Graham in Seattle is about the worst place for him. Very curious to see what Wilson can do with him outside in Seattle.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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