Of course he's not... because he didn't stay a PR guy. My contention was had he stayed a PR guy you would've paid no attention to him but inside that PR guy was a guy who would one day coach a SB winner.

One of my former bosses was very good at scouting NFL talent. He was being courted by Gary Horton to get into the game but he chose not to. If he was on this board, you would have no respect for his opinion if they ran counter to yours simply because they ran counter. You would not respect the fact that the guy was gifted with knowing certain things that others didn't know, including yourself, but you wouldn't even know that and would focus on the fact he didn't think like you blissfully unaware of how much more he actually knew than you.

I know it is not the Packer way to do biz like this. That isn't the topic, though. It is would YOU do this if you had the ability to do it? Given all the info that I'm privy to I would go for it and give Aaron all the weapons I could as his window is closing and perhaps we'll be plunged into a another 2.5 decade drought like before Brett and Aaron arrived. Playing conservative while you have a star QB is dumb.. you let him go to waste because he is good enough to elevate you way up there. I can see the argument that says and has said in this thread the same about the D. I think the D has been given all it needs. So many high picks and now Peppers even as old as he is. The point is this team should be made as strong as it can at ALL times all the much more while it has a guy at the helm who can win multiple SB's if given the team around him. Now, we're behind Seattle and Aaron's career may be over before we can overcome them. We're just now getting to the point where we're catching SF and now there's a Seattle. Would you like to just assume we're going to be able to take them this year, or will it take a few years of Niner-esque season ending losses to convince you we didn't do enough? I know you'd never do it, but think back on how we didn't go for it by getting guys like Jimmy Graham while we could've while Seattle wins multiples and Aaron's career ends with no more rings. You can feel good that we played safe and held on to some first round picks that may be the next Justin Harrell far more likely than they'll be the next Aaron Rodgers. History bears that one out with signficant force.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftology408_1.php 

Earlier in this thread I showed it was right around a 10% chance the Packers would hit on a player as good as Jimmy Graham is at his position.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I see you forgot about Matthews again.

Also, the article's table of data is based on him listing out every draft pick and assigning a bust or hit (check the excel spreadsheet). It's interesting, but it's completely subjective. On quick glance, I already saw a couple players in the bust column who have had long careers and been named to the pro bowl. Might very well be that his standard for being a hit is quite high, in which case, it wouldn't be fair to say there's no value in the busts.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 

BTW, I like the ad hominem crack...and especially the appeal to emotion part...football is a game of emotion, brother.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

If he was on this board, you would have no respect for his opinion if they ran counter to yours simply because they ran counter. You would not respect the fact that the guy was gifted with knowing certain things that others didn't know, including yourself, but you wouldn't even know that and would focus on the fact he didn't think like you blissfully unaware of how much more he actually knew than you.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

You have turned this thread, like most others you post in, into a joke!!!!

I know of 2 memebers who have left because of your clamoring/

Congratulations, soon you will be the only one left here.

Originally Posted by: StarrMax1