play2win
10 years ago

Actually, we were both wrong... I was much closer..


play2win Offline Posted: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:05:58 PM



I had no idea Dex! Cool!

I'm not down on Boykin at all. He could easily hold firm as our #3, or move up. I firmly believe this.


---So I apologize, at the time you converted p2w to thinking Boykin might beat out RC18 or Jordy it was TWO stats...the one I stated and FUMBLES.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



go fuck yourself asshole!!!!! Fucking smurf troll bitch!!!!

I suspected you wrre a troll bitch before Dakota even brought it up in the Rodgers dratf thread, laughed when he posted such, and have felt the same ever since. Really, you fucking prick, go fuck yourself. ASSHOLE!
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

go fuck yourself asshole!!!!! Fucking smurf troll bitch!!!!

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Let's not jump at eachothers throats.

Play2Win, I asked you a question in the editor thread. What gives with the no response dude!!!![grin1]








As for this topic, ... Jimmy Graham is NOT worth two first round picks.
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play2win
10 years ago

Let's not jump at eachothers throats.

Play2Win, I asked you a question in the editor thread. What gives with the no response dude!!!![grin1]








As for this topic, ... Jimmy Graham is NOT worth two first round picks.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



i suspect YOU are the troll Kevin, and that is SO FUCKING UNCOOL!

Adios!
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

i suspect YOU are the troll Kevin, and that is SO FUCKING UNCOOL!

Adios!

Originally Posted by: play2win 



huh?
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mi_keys
10 years ago

For fun...go research the bio of SB winning HC, Brian Billick. You might be surprised to know where his road to SB HC started.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Well if my lazy search of wikipedia is to be believed: High school football player that evidently holds the California state record for career interceptions. Played college ball. On NFL offseason rosters for a year. Grad assistent for a year. Two years in public relations for an NFL franchise and then coached for the next 27 years. Not sure what point you're making.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

huh?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Did you tell him a post with a cuss word doesn't count in his 7 day total? 😆

Troll? Oh boy. I would bet I've followed the Packers for more years and more closely than you have.

This is my favorite franchise in all of professional sports. Just a special place with a special tradition.

I'm not sure why you flip out when what I do is bring up things you've posted. I'm sorry if I ridicule some of the things you say, but I do find much of what you say to be humorous and way out there. I'm sure it comes from a love for your team. It sounds terrible but we are very different types of Packers fan. I insist on objectivity...I can't do it the other way. I used to but there's no going back once you've crossed the line and if you ever do it, you'll understand. I wish I could be like you...I truly do. It was more fun that way. It's still fun, just not as much. I give you credit...you say some bizarre things, flip out, and come back and repeat the process over and over. I admire your stick-to-it-iveness. Curious to see if Dex is similar in that regard.

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uffda udfa
10 years ago

Well if my lazy search of wikipedia is to be believed: High school football player that evidently holds the California state record for career interceptions. Played college ball. On NFL offseason rosters for a year. Grad assistent for a year. Two years in public relations for an NFL franchise and then coached for the next 27 years. Not sure what point you're making.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



So, where did the NFL portion of his career begin... As a PR guy for the Niners. The guy went from Niners PR guy to SB winning HC. If Brian Billick had done nothing but been a PR guy and offered his opinion you would invalidate it as he was ONLY a PR guy for an NFL team which wouldn't be good enough for the purpose of this debate.

Schefter spoke to Jimmy G.

Ed Werder spoke to Jimmy G.

Nate Davis USA Today spoke to Jimmy G.

Mike Florio PFT.com spoke to Jimmy G.

I'm a crazy idiot, they're just nobodies or somehow their opinion matters LESS than yours and you guys are right.
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mi_keys
10 years ago

So, where did the NFL portion of his career begin... As a PR guy for the Niners. The guy went from Niners PR guy to SB winning HC. If Brian Billick had done nothing but been a PR guy and offered his opinion you would invalidate it as he was ONLY a PR guy for an NFL team which wouldn't be good enough for the purpose of this debate.

Schefter spoke to Jimmy G.

Ed Werder spoke to Jimmy G.

Nate Davis USA Today spoke to Jimmy G.

Mike Florio PFT.com spoke to Jimmy G.

I'm a crazy idiot, they're just nobodies or somehow their opinion matters LESS than yours and you guys are right.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



2 years in PR after first being a college player, NFL offseason member and grad assistant. He then goes back and spends almost the entirety of his career coaching.

I then came across this:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-07-30-1243447559_x.htm 

So he was hired onto the PR payroll because there wasn't room on the coaching staff and the media following the team at the time thought he was a coach, evidently

Not at all comparable to the media folks you've quoted.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

2 years in PR after first being a college player, NFL offseason member and grad assistant. He then goes back and spends almost the entirety of his career coaching.

I then came across this:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-07-30-1243447559_x.htm 

So he was hired onto the PR payroll because there wasn't room on the coaching staff and the media following the team at the time thought he was a coach, evidently

Not at all comparable to the media folks you've quoted.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Of course he's not... because he didn't stay a PR guy. My contention was had he stayed a PR guy you would've paid no attention to him but inside that PR guy was a guy who would one day coach a SB winner.

One of my former bosses was very good at scouting NFL talent. He was being courted by Gary Horton to get into the game but he chose not to. If he was on this board, you would have no respect for his opinion if they ran counter to yours simply because they ran counter. You would not respect the fact that the guy was gifted with knowing certain things that others didn't know, including yourself, but you wouldn't even know that and would focus on the fact he didn't think like you blissfully unaware of how much more he actually knew than you.

I know it is not the Packer way to do biz like this. That isn't the topic, though. It is would YOU do this if you had the ability to do it? Given all the info that I'm privy to I would go for it and give Aaron all the weapons I could as his window is closing and perhaps we'll be plunged into a another 2.5 decade drought like before Brett and Aaron arrived. Playing conservative while you have a star QB is dumb.. you let him go to waste because he is good enough to elevate you way up there. I can see the argument that says and has said in this thread the same about the D. I think the D has been given all it needs. So many high picks and now Peppers even as old as he is. The point is this team should be made as strong as it can at ALL times all the much more while it has a guy at the helm who can win multiple SB's if given the team around him. Now, we're behind Seattle and Aaron's career may be over before we can overcome them. We're just now getting to the point where we're catching SF and now there's a Seattle. Would you like to just assume we're going to be able to take them this year, or will it take a few years of Niner-esque season ending losses to convince you we didn't do enough? I know you'd never do it, but think back on how we didn't go for it by getting guys like Jimmy Graham while we could've while Seattle wins multiples and Aaron's career ends with no more rings. You can feel good that we played safe and held on to some first round picks that may be the next Justin Harrell far more likely than they'll be the next Aaron Rodgers. History bears that one out with signficant force.
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
You know at this point I hope we trade for Graham just to see how many more twists and turns it'll produce in this thread.
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