DakotaT
10 years ago
Sherrod represents something I seek out in people: the ability to come back from having your dick knocked in the dirt. A good majority of people don't have what it takes, their character makeup isn't strong enough. The fact that Sherrod is still training and trying to get back on the field tells me that he has the character necessary to make this comeback.

Every one of us should be rooting for Sherrod to not only make the team, but to beat out Bacteria for the starting spot. Logic tells us this won't happen. LT is Bacteria's job to lose.
UserPostedImage
uffda udfa
10 years ago

Sherrod represents something I seek out in people: the ability to come back from having your dick knocked in the dirt. A good majority of people don't have what it takes, their character makeup isn't strong enough. The fact that Sherrod is still training and trying to get back on the field tells me that he has the character necessary to make this comeback.

Every one of us should be rooting for Sherrod to not only make the team, but to beat out Bacteria for the starting spot. Logic tells us this won't happen. LT is Bacteria's job to lose.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I don't know if I buy this... yet. He has been knocked down. He's been well compensated over the years to do rehab work. Now, his meal ticket is in question. If he responds and shows something I would agree with you that he's proven he can get back up. If he fails miserably and we don't hear from again then I think he was a guy who just treaded water until the money ran out.

I'm pulling for him for sure...it would make us that much better if he's better than Bakhtiari. His odds are low but he was a 1st rounder which should give him better odds than a non first rounder in the same situation. He had some ability and impressive athleticism. Campen says he looks "terrific". A few more weeks and we'll be hearing how true or not true that statement is.


UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


nerdmann
10 years ago

I don't know if I buy this... yet. He has been knocked down. He's been well compensated over the years to do rehab work. Now, his meal ticket is in question. If he responds and shows something I would agree with you that he's proven he can get back up. If he fails miserably and we don't hear from again then I think he was a guy who just treaded water until the money ran out.

I'm pulling for him for sure...it would make us that much better if he's better than Bakhtiari. His odds are low but he was a 1st rounder which should give him better odds than a non first rounder in the same situation. He had some ability and impressive athleticism. Campen says he looks "terrific". A few more weeks and we'll be hearing how true or not true that statement is.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Is this Texas under a new account?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DakotaT
10 years ago

Is this Texas under a new account?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Well that was a quote right out of Dumbassville. I do like the way Uffda defends his argument, even if he might be wrong. Kind of reminds me of someone, but I just can't remember who. ('[grin1] ')
UserPostedImage
mi_keys
10 years ago

Is this Texas under a new account?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If it is, someone call the psychiatrist... they got in a big argument in the back alley if memory serves. That would be some mean split personality disorder.
Born and bred a cheesehead
mi_keys
10 years ago
On topic, this is the year that Sherrod has to step up and at least show something. Hopefully, he at least shows he can be the top backup and pushes Bakhtiari to better himself.
Born and bred a cheesehead
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
I think Sherrod will end up contributing. Granted it's because I think Bulaga will get hurt again but still.
“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
UserPostedImage
"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
uffda udfa
10 years ago

I'll give him a 75% chance that he's a player.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The average bust rate for the first round per a 10 yr. study put the bust rate for first rounders at 46%. By definition, that means Sherrod had only a 54% chance of not busting BEFORE all this stuff happened to him. He was also the very last pick in the first round which I have no data for but common sense says means his bust rate would be even higher.

So, couple an already 46% chance he busts the day he was drafted add the injury and all the lost time and throw in he was the 32nd pick in Round 1 and I'd say his odds have increased considerably from the 46% chance he would bust from Day 1.


UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
10 years ago

The average bust rate for the first round per a 10 yr. study put the bust rate for first rounders at 46%. By definition, that means Sherrod had only a 54% chance of not busting BEFORE all this stuff happened to him. He was also the very last pick in the first round which I have no data for but common sense says means his bust rate would be even higher.

So, couple an already 46% chance he busts the day he was drafted add the injury and all the lost time and throw in he was the 32nd pick in Round 1 and I'd say his odds have increased considerably from the 46% chance he would bust from Day 1.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I don't have the data either but I would say the success rate for a #32 pick is higher than the average for other first round picks. The reason is the teams that draft @ 32 are typically the better teams. They do not have to rush the player into the game as quickly. They can truly draft the best player instead of the highest rated player at a position of need who they pretend is the BPA. They can get the draft pick on to the field a little at a time, pull him off and then talk about what he experienced. There is not a lot of pressure on the player to be the savior of the team or even the offense or defense.

Even though they were not the 32nd picks just look at GB first round picks this year and in 2005. A lot of people expect great things out of Ha Ha this year. Aaron was allowed to sit for 3 years before he had to step up.

UserPostedImage
uffda udfa
10 years ago

I don't have the data either but I would say the success rate for a #32 pick is higher than the average for other first round picks. The reason is the teams that draft @ 32 are typically the better teams. They do not have to rush the player into the game as quickly. They can truly draft the best player instead of the highest rated player at a position of need who they pretend is the BPA. They can get the draft pick on to the field a little at a time, pull him off and then talk about what he experienced. There is not a lot of pressure on the player to be the savior of the team or even the offense or defense.

Even though they were not the 32nd picks just look at GB first round picks this year and in 2005. A lot of people expect great things out of Ha Ha this year. Aaron was allowed to sit for 3 years before he had to step up.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



That's a great point. I was thinking along the lines that it would make sense to find more can't miss players up high in picks 1-10 vs. 22-32.

With a QB, I think that would make some sense, but how many SB winners, or those that are playoff teams are drafting QB's in Round 1?

The thing that troubled me about Sherrod is there was no positive buzz about him like there was with some other guys like a Greg Jennings, Casey Hayward, etc. He wasn't making any waves early and seemed to be treading water. If you're a 1st round OT and you can't get on the field with the line we had when he was drafted, that was a very disappointing omen. It is hard for me to believe a guy with no positive buzz who wasn't making hey to play vs. the guys we had there, then, how is he going to do so now?

His movement to G after drafting him a T might be all the reason he struggled as he didn't play G at Mississippi State. The Packers had an even more liberal move guys around philosophy regarding the OL than they do now. I'm all for a guy being able wear multiple hats but make sure he is good at one before you move him. He never got a shot at tackle. Campen and musical positions has usually done us a disservice. A couple of smart decisions that worked out were realizing Bryan Bulaga was not a LT and putting him on the right side...Guard made sense for him and of course the switch of Sitton and Lang.

What a boon to the team it would be if Derek overcomes the odds and excels at LT...it'd be like an extra 1st rounder added for this season.


UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Fan Shout
Martha Careful (1h) : You can wear long-johns mittens and a hat. We want Hill and their other skill guys FROZEN
Zero2Cool (5h) : I'm not sure I hope for that. I'll be at the game.
Martha Careful (19h) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters
beast (25-Nov) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday
Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk
TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets
beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

4h / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / GameDay Threads / Zero2Cool

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.