Step-Up Time for Packers Defense

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

The draft-and-develop Green Bay Packers have surely produced as a team. Year-in and year-out they are Super Bowl contenders and this year will be no different. Only the Seattle Seahawks have better betting odds to win it all than the Packers. When you look at the Packers game-changers there are any number that jump out [...]

JerseyAl wrote:

I thought they were adequate during the 2nd half last year.

One thing that pisses me off though: any time Clay leaves the field we see a complete and total collapse. That's bullshit man. Hold it together bitches. Don't be so reliant on one guy.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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texaspackerbacker
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9 years ago

I tend to disagree about the "every time Clay leaves the field ..." thing. The defense had a fair amount of great moments other than Clay, and a lot of average to above average play.

I also tend to disagree with the premise that draft and develop got us such a consistently great team. The rare foray into free agency to get Peppers made a huge difference - taking the Packers D from a little below average to a little above average. Shields, who was developed but not drafted, was probably also in the top 3 D players.

The reason the team is Great, though, is pure and simple, AARON RODGERS. With our D, our O Line, our Receivers, our RBs, plus a mediocre QB, the Packers are a mediocre team. With Rodgers, all those other things can range from a little below average to above average, and the Packers are GREAT.

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Smokey
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9 years ago

The reason the team is Great, though, is pure and simple, AARON RODGERS. With our D, our O Line, our Receivers, our RBs, plus a mediocre QB, the Packers are a mediocre team. With Rodgers, all those other things can range from a little below average to above average, and the Packers are GREAT.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

It is possible to outscore some teams and win. However it should be noted that most teams try to move the football through the air. Without quality CB's and ILB's to cover, some games will be a horse race while others will be lost as the Secondary gets shredded.

For the Packers Defense to step-up they will need to first climb out of the hole. TT's poor performance will be self evident by week 6 of the upcoming season.

gbguy20
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9 years ago

It must be rough to go through life that negative

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texaspackerbacker
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Yeah, we had a couple of games like that. I didn't say Rodgers plus a shitty D wins; I said Rodgers plus an average D wins. We have that average D now, and I could see it getting a little bit better with draft picks, etc. We are not in a hole; We are between very decent and great all around - like I said, average or slightly above on D.

I just question the premise of the article that draft and develop would have gotten us there if not for AARON RODGERS.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

For the Packers Defense to step-up they will need to first climb out of the hole. TT's poor performance will be self evident by week 6 of the upcoming season.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

If the "Mike McCarthy" pattern holds, this team will shit itself 3 of the first 4 weeks, then go on a hot streak for the next two months.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

One thing that bugs me about Capers' defenses is they always seem so fragile. There is so much difference between how they look during a bad game and a good game that it's just ridiculous. There's never a consistent performance level. They will have a really good series of games then just get embarrassingly destroyed in the next or they will completely dominate for half a game then look like they are playing with 5 guys for the 2nd half, there's always this feeling that they are about to collapse at any moment. I think next years defense should be above average overall but I'm still expecting there to be some rough patches which will probably be the case until we have a new D coordinator.

QCHuskerFan
Member

9 years ago

If the "Mike McCarthy" pattern holds, this team will shit itself 3 of the first 4 weeks, then go on a hot streak for the next two months.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

And then go into the playoffs as one of the favorites to go to Super Bowl? That sounds pretty good to me!

Or would you prefer they go on a hot streak to start the year and then shit themselves in December?

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

We should see some improvement in the defense from the rookies of 2014. This is where they need to take a big jump. I'm hoping for Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix to continue improve and hoping for huge jumps for Khyri Thorton and Carl Bradford.

PackerTraxx
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9 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

That would be great! Then we just need one of the CBs to step up. The horses are there, but like all teams there are question marks. It would be nice to see a good/great D to go with our O.

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