On the non- rope pusher side of things we have this...



---or is it subterfuge?

Those anti rope pushers should be happy with this commentary from someone indoctrinated to the Green Bay way. Yes, it's out of character for this team because of it's GM... those from the outside see the Packers as needing to go for it more. I also think most from the outside don't share the view of most Packers fans that this offense is going to be great. The outside view considers that Driver, Jennings, Jones and Finley are gone, or basically the guys around Aaron when he started. The typical Packer fan thinks Boykin, Richard Rodgers, Davante Adams and Jared Abbrederis= Driver, Jennings, Finley, Jones I wouldn't begin to know where to start with that. I see it like the outside does... we've lost so much over the last few years and I don't view the rookies as on equal footing with proven very good players who have departed like some who already have our young bucks pegged for stardom.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I've seen some terrible research in my day but this is up there. Here's a date for you to research...

1-14-2012... go take a look and please do the honorable thing and apologize that you missed this one badly. He tore up one of those teams and pretty good I might add. How many times has he faced almost every single one of those teams? My goodness. Dallas is brought up? Horrific defense. Horrific. As if Dallas has any relevance here at all as it's one of the worst defenses in the league.

The points not to do this are reaching more and more.

BTW, ESPN ran a piece mentioning the Packers potential interest. It wasn't a local guy, it was a national guy:



---Ol' Ed Werder obviously wasn't accounting for the salary cap rise. I do, however, agree that both Cobb and Nelson would not get extensions THIS season. One of them would have to wait until next off season when cap is purged and or cap goes up for new league year. Not a big deal...Randall and his people may choose to wait until after the season anyway.

EDIT: A picture is worth a thousand words...not sure how many a video clip is worth but this one might help dispell some brutal commentary about Jimmy Graham vs. top defenses. BTW, this wasn't his first one of the day...

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Woo2ooooooooo! Your TD King scored -1- TD against CAR in the playoffs in 2014. Again, you question my honor, when iI pulled my stats from ProFootballReference.com and missed that ONE TD.

and, I'm supposed to apologize to you for that? You are out of your freaking mind.

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Ummm... the highlight was from a playoff game vs. SAN FRANCISCO at SF where he posted TWO TD's and over 100 yards... even with the highlight, you still got it wrong. I'm not sure what else I can do, here.

I know you want to pounce on me with the ol' aha! I got ya, but you have to be more thorough. I will get things wrong as any of us will from time to time but I try extremely hard to post accurate information.

BTW, you're back to cherry picking...you really have to work harder on your research. Jimmy Graham put up NINE TD's in 2012...TWO vs. Carolina. You keep trying to obfuscate things...

JIMMY GRAHAM vs. CAROLINA in 2012

16 RECEPTIONS 186 YARDS and 2 TOUCHDOWNS... you come on here with your bravado about "Hell No" implying how dumb this is based on ONE stat you messed up. Ummm, you screwed up the SF stats and also the Carolina stats and pretty badly.


EDIT: For Steve: Most people who follow the NFL realize Green Bay has lost Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, James Jones and Jermichael Finley over the last couple of seasons. Those same people who follow the NFL realize that plugging in Richard Rodgers, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams, and either an Abbrederis, Harper or Janis leaves a lot to be desired vs. what we used to trot out on the field. I see it on this board with people and their enthusiasm...they have guys who have proven less than Terrell Manning penciled in as either the best ever in Green bay at their position (Davante Adams) or guys who will make Finley and Jones and Jennings, Driver long forgotten. Heck, nerd said we'd only need Jimmy Graham for one season implying that in two years one guy on our roster is going to break out and be a heckuva player. Those are leaps. They may happen but they are wishful thinking. There is no wishful thinking or leap needed with Jimmy unless it's several into the Lambeau endzone bleachers.

I posted a blurb today from a reputable national sports source that brought up that Ron Wolf lamented he never gave Favre enough weapons. I also posted Adam Schefter's tweet saying Green Bay or Seattle should jump on giving the Saints two 1st's for Graham. Explain to me, if you would, why he would say something like that if we're such a juggernaut and in need of nothing at any position on O? Why? You have one of the most recognizable names in NFL media saying we should do it and there's a reason for it but you insinuate NFL observers are high on our offense. If they were that high they would not be advocating us adding Jimmy Graham. It is known we have a gaping hole at TE and have suffered many high profile losses in the receiving corps over the last two years. I honestly do think there is a huge chasm between the Packers fan and national media point of view. I try very hard to be as obective as a non Packers fan would be.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Whatever. The notion that Ted would part with two R1s is proposterous. Enjoy your Jimmy Graham circle jerk uffda.

Originally Posted by: play2win