beast
10 years ago

To me it sounds like the Packers are going to play an aggressive one gap 3-4/4-3 hybrid defense... meaning less scheme and more attack and win the battle right in front of you and not worry as much about the rest. Of course the run defense will need some scheme and it will be interesting what they have there.
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beast
10 years ago

Yes, Kampman didn't look good in coverage, but he was pretty effective and had a low completion % when his guy was targeted.

He also led the team in pressures on the QB up until he got hurt.

The media kept saying how bad he looked in coverage, but they failed to note how effective he was.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 




I agree everyone seemed to think the worse of Kampman at OLB because his sacks were down and he wasn't talked nearly as much to the media (reportedly didn't like the change to OLB, and personally I think it was stupid he wasn't allowed to get into a 3 point stances when they went to the 2-4 nickel, everyone knew he was coming anyways).


But while Kampman sacks numbers were low, he had a ton of pressures and a number of his pressures turned into rushed / stupid QB throws which lead to a high number of INTs (because instead of holding the ball and taking the sacks the QBs were taking a risk and throwing it, which didn't work out very well for them that year as the Packers DB would take it).

But the DBs got all the credit for that (and they should get some with out a doubt) but the pass rusher should of gotten some as well and usually it seemed to be Kampman that year.
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dfosterf
10 years ago
Clay has never had a good book-end, and some could argue the same about Julius Peppers. Julius Peppers, on this team, would be a no-brainer if he was younger. I still like this, a lot, but I'm desperate. Ted Thompson has been SO conservative with respect to free agency that I have to put this in the category of wishful thinking on my part. I liked that center, in May. 😞
steveishere
10 years ago

I agree everyone seemed to think the worse of Kampman at OLB because his sacks were down and he wasn't talked nearly as much to the media (reportedly didn't like the change to OLB, and personally I think it was stupid he wasn't allowed to get into a 3 point stances when they went to the 2-4 nickel, everyone knew he was coming anyways).


But while Kampman sacks numbers were low, he had a ton of pressures and a number of his pressures turned into rushed / stupid QB throws which lead to a high number of INTs (because instead of holding the ball and taking the sacks the QBs were taking a risk and throwing it, which didn't work out very well for them that year as the Packers DB would take it).

But the DBs got all the credit for that (and they should get some with out a doubt) but the pass rusher should of gotten some as well and usually it seemed to be Kampman that year.

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The thing with kampman was the media and fans made such a big deal about his transition and how he wasn't really comfortable playing linebacker that they just completely zero'd in on any little thing that didn't go right and just ignored that he was still a good pass rusher. If he gave up a 5 yard reception to a RB in the flat it was just blah blah blah about how he's not doing well in coverage never mind that he'd crushed the QB 3 or 4 times in the same game.
Dexter_Sinister
10 years ago

The thing with kampman was the media and fans made such a big deal about his transition and how he wasn't really comfortable playing linebacker that they just completely zero'd in on any little thing that didn't go right and just ignored that he was still a good pass rusher. If he gave up a 5 yard reception to a RB in the flat it was just blah blah blah about how he's not doing well in coverage never mind that he'd crushed the QB 3 or 4 times in the same game.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Kampman actually did pretty well in coverage.

He just didn't look pretty doing it.

He had a very low completions % allowed. One of the best on the team until he got hurt.
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Dulak
10 years ago

Kampman actually did pretty well in coverage.

He just didn't look pretty doing it.

He had a very low completions % allowed. One of the best on the team until he got hurt.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



ahh ya? - ya that was kampman ... I recall him not doing well in coverage; too slow etc ... but perhaps that is just a perception thing. Ya felt sorry for him - didnt he do his ACL twice; once with us and once with is it miami
OlHoss1884
10 years ago
I want to say it was Jacksonville
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mi_keys
10 years ago

I want to say it was Jacksonville

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



It was. Got hurt with us then next year with the jags and that was the end of his career I believe. Was a shame because he was such a great player for us. Would've been nice to get him and Harris a ring.
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DakotaT
10 years ago

It was. Got hurt with us then next year with the jags and that was the end of his career I believe. Was a shame because he was such a great player for us. Would've been nice to get him and Harris a ring.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



I thought we gave Al a ring, cause he went to training camp with us in the fall of 2009? There is a huge difference between a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 outside linebacker. Thankfully Big Julius has the athleticism to pull it off. Jared Allen could not have played OLB.

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play2win
10 years ago

I thought we gave Al a ring, cause he went to training camp with us in the fall of 2009? There is a huge difference between a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 outside linebacker. Thankfully Big Julius has the athleticism to pull it off. Jared Allen could not have played OLB.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Yeah. Al's knee got shredded against SF in 2009, but had surgery and was in TC 2010, PUP'd, then waived in Nov 2010. He helped those younger guys as a mentor. Glad Harris got a ring.
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