Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

The Green Bay Packers are embarking upon their 10th draft under the direction of general manager Ted Thompson with a few more glaring needs than normal.

JSOnline  wrote:



Interesting look at the Packers from another NFL executive.
play2win
10 years ago
I'll say. That was a great read.

Confirms S as our #1 team need, and opens up the rest of the draft to pure BPA with an emphasis on WR, DE, OLB and TE.

Add to that a STs ace...
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10 years ago
I still think the safeties talked about in the first two rounds of this draft are overrated.

Clinton-Dix should fall to the Packers, but won't because their are multiple teams in need of safety help. One will spend a top 15 pick on him.

Pryor is overrated, too. He's good, but he'll also probably go top 15, and he's not that good. IMO he's second round talent. He's a big hitter, to be sure, but just watch if the Packers draft him -- for many fans he's going to have at least a couple years of too many "bad angles" and "missed tackles going for the kill shot" and "failure of communication." I won't complain if he's the pick at #21, but I'd rather Ted found a way to trade down a bit first.

In some ways, Bucannon might be the best safety pick for the Packers. He can play both positions at a high level. Personally, I think he's early third quality, but I can now see why most see him as a second. (He's not a first, though.)

As for Brooks, well, I just don't see the attraction. He's a tier down from the other three. Okay if he falls to the 3rd, but even that might be high. He'll go in the second, though. Hopefully to Chicago, Minnesota, or Detroit. :)

Craig Loston, Ed Reynolds, Ahmad Dixon (one of my faves) -- all fourth round quality. Loston later than the others, might fall there, but good chance each will be gone in top 100 picks.

Two sleepers, IMO, both because of their versatility: Nat Berhe (both safety positions; real smart); Dontae Reynolds (safety and corner). If any safeties out there are underrated, it might be one of these two.

And one I'd take a chance on late if he falls because of injury concerns -- Aaron Colvin (again, versatility: lists as CB, but might be even better as safety).



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play2win
10 years ago

I still think the safeties talked about in the first two rounds of this draft are overrated.

Clinton-Dix should fall to the Packers, but won't because their are multiple teams in need of safety help. One will spend a top 15 pick on him.

Pryor is overrated, too. He's good, but he'll also probably go top 15, and he's not that good. IMO he's second round talent. He's a big hitter, to be sure, but just watch if the Packers draft him -- for many fans he's going to have at least a couple years of too many "bad angles" and "missed tackles going for the kill shot" and "failure of communication." I won't complain if he's the pick at #21, but I'd rather Ted found a way to trade down a bit first.

In some ways, Bucannon might be the best safety pick for the Packers. He can play both positions at a high level. Personally, I think he's early third quality, but I can now see why most see him as a second. (He's not a first, though.)

As for Brooks, well, I just don't see the attraction. He's a tier down from the other three. Okay if he falls to the 3rd, but even that might be high. He'll go in the second, though. Hopefully to Chicago, Minnesota, or Detroit. :)

Craig Loston, Ed Reynolds, Ahmad Dixon (one of my faves) -- all fourth round quality. Loston later than the others, might fall there, but good chance each will be gone in top 100 picks.

Two sleepers, IMO, both because of their versatility: Nat Berhe (both safety positions; real smart); Dontae Reynolds (safety and corner). If any safeties out there are underrated, it might be one of these two.

And one I'd take a chance on late if he falls because of injury concerns -- Aaron Colvin (again, versatility: lists as CB, but might be even better as safety).


Originally Posted by: Wade 



I agree. Buccanon is my top rated followed closely by Brooks and Dixon. All of them faster that Clinton-Dix and Pryor. I hope Ted lands one or two of these guys.

I'm also not buying that we are fine at ILB. Brad Jones stinks. Lattimore is OK, and Barrington was supposed to show promise, but all three were injured last year and unavailable for much if not all of the season. How can we rely on that? I don't think we should.
steveishere
10 years ago


Pryor is overrated, too. He's good, but he'll also probably go top 15, and he's not that good. IMO he's second round talent. He's a big hitter, to be sure, but just watch if the Packers draft him -- for many fans he's going to have at least a couple years of too many "bad angles" and "missed tackles going for the kill shot" and "failure of communication." I won't complain if he's the pick at #21, but I'd rather Ted found a way to trade down a bit first.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



To me the Pryor being a "big hitter" thing is being overstated. That's all everyone talks about but what I like about him is he's constantly around the ball. He's not leaving guys wide open in coverage and if someone is running it or catching a pass he's in on the play almost every time. His angles aren't terrible but he does miss some tackles so he's not perfect or anything. I just think even with his flaws it would be refreshing to have someone back there who is going to be a presence on a play to play basis instead of being invisible all game unless he's giving up a 40 yard TD. I would be fine with Pryor at 21.
luigis
10 years ago
I still like Ed Reynolds and I'm very happy he is under the radar.

Luis
Wade
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10 years ago



I'm also not buying that we are fine at ILB. Brad Jones stinks. Lattimore is OK, and Barrington was supposed to show promise, but all three were injured last year and unavailable for much if not all of the season. How can we rely on that? I don't think we should.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Agree. Unfortunately, this is a weak draft for ILB.



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play2win
10 years ago

Agree. Unfortunately, this is a weak draft for ILB.


Originally Posted by: Wade 



Well, the one player who gives me the most hope on our roster is Barrington. That's saying something.

I think there is plenty of talent in this draft. We'll see one of Mosley, Shazier, Borland, Skov, Smallwood, Jones, Smith, or Bullough added to our D, for sure.

Adding a great ILB along with S is going to make a world of difference for our D.
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Clearly, Safety is the biggest need, followed closely by ILB. If Clinton-Dix is there at #21, grab him. If he's gone and Shazier is gone, grab him and convert him to ILB. Next choice is Mosely. If all three are gone, I really don't know, trade down? I don't like that, but whatever. I want to see two Safetys drafted by the fourth round along with at least one ILB. Then and only then, think about TE, WR, and OLB, and don't even think about D-Line, QB, O-Line, or RB before late Saturday.
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