Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
For point of reference: Anthony Barr 

NFL Draft 2014: Risers, fallers and surprises as draft day nears 

Who will fall?

Anthony Barr, LB. Some considered him a sleeper choice as the top pick as college season ended. But the UCLA product has been passed in many eyes by Buffalo LB Khalil Mack and could also fall behind the hot offensive line prospects and by fast-moving skill position players like TE Eric Ebron and WR Mike Evans. Barr falling to the bottom of the first round where a contender can snatch him up is entirely possible.



But on the other hand :

Why the fall?

McShay said it has a lot to do with the tape. He watched Barr after the 2012 season and projected him to become one of the top prospects in this draft.

Some of McShay's early mocks, which kept Barr in the top 15, hinged on that tape on those projections. But once he finally watched the 2013 tape, he realized Barr had not developed as he anticipated.

"I thought I was going to see a different player than I actually saw," McShay said. "He wasn't bad -- I don't want to give the wrong impression -- but his takeoff skills have to improve.

"He's not very strong at the point of attack. He does not do a good job of setting the edge. He is close to a one-trick pony as a pass-rusher, in terms of just the speed rush. His speed-to-power moves stall -- they almost always stall out."



If he was there at #21, what say you?
“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
UserPostedImage
"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
DakotaT
11 years ago
He won't be Mucky - we should have a shot at Mosely though, even though I think we should take a receiver like Cooks.
UserPostedImage
play2win
10 years ago

He won't be Mucky - we should have a shot at Mosely though, even though I think we should take a receiver like Cooks.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I'm really liking Brandin Cooks. A lot. Monster speed who plays much larger than he is, with good hands.

I've been thinking WR depth is something that should be addressed early with a top talent. Was thinking big, but depth at the slot can be just as important. Taking Cooks at 21, arguably the fastest player in the draft, might not be a bad idea.

As for Anthony Barr, seems like we could do better with the pick. He is definitely dropping fast.
mi_keys
10 years ago

I'm really liking Brandin Cooks. A lot. Monster speed who plays much larger than he is, with good hands.

I've been thinking WR depth is something that should be addressed early with a top talent. Was thinking big, but depth at the slot can be just as important. Taking Cooks at 21, arguably the fastest player in the draft, might not be a bad idea.

As for Anthony Barr, seems like we could do better with the pick. He is definitely dropping fast.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Guess I better retract my comment on him as far as moving up to the Vikings pick!
Born and bred a cheesehead
luigis
10 years ago
I don't see Barr or Mosley falling but I guess we'd pick one of them if available.

Brandin Cooks is a good player but I wouldn't like to pick him at #21. The WRs I like at #21 are Beckham Jr and Marquese Lee. Beckham because I think he could boost our return game to a high level, something we need a lot and Lee because I think he is a top-10 player that will fall only because of a season plagued with injuries.

I can't see a scenario where Brandin Cooks would be the BPA at #21. Barr or Mosley would be almost automatic though.



Luis
dhazer
10 years ago
I thnk we can get Jarred Abbrederis in the 3rd round
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
Tezzy
10 years ago
Take a punter.
On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."
isocleas2
10 years ago
If Ted and co feel he's a top 10 talent and he's there you have to take him. Mathews is a beast but he's missed how many games? Perry can and may turn into a solid OLB but as of now you don't pass on someone you think is a pro-bowler just to give Perry one more look. However if they don't feel he's an elite talent and he grades out mid-late first or something, well then I rather they pass.

I'm in the camp with those who feel as long as its not a QB or RB you take the best player who fell to you in round 1 or trade out. You can reach for the positions of need with the rest of the picks.
play2win
10 years ago
I would take Shazier if he's there. Pass on Barr.
DoddPower
10 years ago

If Ted and co feel he's a top 10 talent and he's there you have to take him. Mathews is a beast but he's missed how many games? Perry can and may turn into a solid OLB but as of now you don't pass on someone you think is a pro-bowler just to give Perry one more look. However if they don't feel he's an elite talent and he grades out mid-late first or something, well then I rather they pass.

I'm in the camp with those who feel as long as its not a QB or RB you take the best player who fell to you in round 1 or trade out. You can reach for the positions of need with the rest of the picks.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



It's really as simple as this: trust the board. Finalize all of the decisions before the draft, and have faith in the scouting. If the board says Barr is the best player available, take him. If it says someone else, take him. If multiple players are rated equally and there is no strong preference, try to trade down and take whichever one is likely to be there when the next pick comes around. Obviously I don't know what it's like to be a general manager, but I would think the draft wouldn't be too stressful so long as a team is properly prepared. I suppose that only changes as the draft approaches the later rounds and the quality of scouting may not be as solid. At that point, I think I'd be willing to take a few more risks, because the chance of 6th and 7th round picks contributing much on a good team aren't great anyway. Take a chance on a great talent with an injury history or off the field issues. It probably won't work out, but if it does it's a steal.
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (7h) : LB Isaiah Simmons. Signed. Called it!!! Oh yeah!
Martha Careful (7h) : ty bboystyle...fat fingers
bboystyle (7h) : Tom*
Martha Careful (15h) : RIP Packer Safety Tim Brown
beast (27-Apr) : Yeah, but also some of the wording suggestions Jax only pranked called the QB, not the others... and if he had an open spreadsheet & 3 calls
beast (27-Apr) : Thank goodness he's not leaving the Turtle in the Red Tide
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : that contained all prospects info and contact
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (27-Apr) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
beast (27-Apr) : I'm going with Jax Ulbrich is not telling the whole truth... he accidentally came across it? Why would a defensive coordinator have a QB #?
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : He's not that great, but final piece of the script.\
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : If we add Isaiah Simmons, book your Super Bowl tickets
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : apparently he did not participate in practice or play on the east west shrine game nor the NFL combine. The kid was a mediocre spoiled brat
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : Yeah that one that was a super wounded duck that Sanders supporters are highlighting to prove a point
Zero2Cool (27-Apr) : Shough is the guy who missed guys at combine isn't he?
beast (27-Apr) : It's not official until I'm dead! I have a chance still! (Not really)
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : saw the tweet, he meant the city
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : Was that for the team or the city?
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 3m Draft grade is in: Green Bay gets an A. The people, the city, the venue were all superb. NFL Draft’s next
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matt LaFleur says Jaire Alexander is participating in #Packers offseason program, which has been conducted virtually during this first week
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : ✅ ...
buckeyepackfan (26-Apr) : Check
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matthew Golden cahanged 81 to 22??
TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : @jalenreagors They’re discussing if Sheduer can go back to college on NFL Network LMFAOOOOO
beast (26-Apr) : Great point Martha
beast (26-Apr) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (26-Apr) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Apr / Around The NFL / bboystyle

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

27-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

27-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

27-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

27-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

27-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

27-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.