Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
For point of reference: Anthony Barr 

NFL Draft 2014: Risers, fallers and surprises as draft day nears 

Who will fall?

Anthony Barr, LB. Some considered him a sleeper choice as the top pick as college season ended. But the UCLA product has been passed in many eyes by Buffalo LB Khalil Mack and could also fall behind the hot offensive line prospects and by fast-moving skill position players like TE Eric Ebron and WR Mike Evans. Barr falling to the bottom of the first round where a contender can snatch him up is entirely possible.



But on the other hand :

Why the fall?

McShay said it has a lot to do with the tape. He watched Barr after the 2012 season and projected him to become one of the top prospects in this draft.

Some of McShay's early mocks, which kept Barr in the top 15, hinged on that tape on those projections. But once he finally watched the 2013 tape, he realized Barr had not developed as he anticipated.

"I thought I was going to see a different player than I actually saw," McShay said. "He wasn't bad -- I don't want to give the wrong impression -- but his takeoff skills have to improve.

"He's not very strong at the point of attack. He does not do a good job of setting the edge. He is close to a one-trick pony as a pass-rusher, in terms of just the speed rush. His speed-to-power moves stall -- they almost always stall out."



If he was there at #21, what say you?
“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
UserPostedImage
"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
DakotaT
10 years ago
He won't be Mucky - we should have a shot at Mosely though, even though I think we should take a receiver like Cooks.
UserPostedImage
play2win
10 years ago

He won't be Mucky - we should have a shot at Mosely though, even though I think we should take a receiver like Cooks.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I'm really liking Brandin Cooks. A lot. Monster speed who plays much larger than he is, with good hands.

I've been thinking WR depth is something that should be addressed early with a top talent. Was thinking big, but depth at the slot can be just as important. Taking Cooks at 21, arguably the fastest player in the draft, might not be a bad idea.

As for Anthony Barr, seems like we could do better with the pick. He is definitely dropping fast.
mi_keys
10 years ago

I'm really liking Brandin Cooks. A lot. Monster speed who plays much larger than he is, with good hands.

I've been thinking WR depth is something that should be addressed early with a top talent. Was thinking big, but depth at the slot can be just as important. Taking Cooks at 21, arguably the fastest player in the draft, might not be a bad idea.

As for Anthony Barr, seems like we could do better with the pick. He is definitely dropping fast.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Guess I better retract my comment on him as far as moving up to the Vikings pick!
Born and bred a cheesehead
luigis
10 years ago
I don't see Barr or Mosley falling but I guess we'd pick one of them if available.

Brandin Cooks is a good player but I wouldn't like to pick him at #21. The WRs I like at #21 are Beckham Jr and Marquese Lee. Beckham because I think he could boost our return game to a high level, something we need a lot and Lee because I think he is a top-10 player that will fall only because of a season plagued with injuries.

I can't see a scenario where Brandin Cooks would be the BPA at #21. Barr or Mosley would be almost automatic though.



Luis
dhazer
10 years ago
I thnk we can get Jarred Abbrederis in the 3rd round
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
Tezzy
10 years ago
Take a punter.
On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."
isocleas2
10 years ago
If Ted and co feel he's a top 10 talent and he's there you have to take him. Mathews is a beast but he's missed how many games? Perry can and may turn into a solid OLB but as of now you don't pass on someone you think is a pro-bowler just to give Perry one more look. However if they don't feel he's an elite talent and he grades out mid-late first or something, well then I rather they pass.

I'm in the camp with those who feel as long as its not a QB or RB you take the best player who fell to you in round 1 or trade out. You can reach for the positions of need with the rest of the picks.
play2win
10 years ago
I would take Shazier if he's there. Pass on Barr.
DoddPower
10 years ago

If Ted and co feel he's a top 10 talent and he's there you have to take him. Mathews is a beast but he's missed how many games? Perry can and may turn into a solid OLB but as of now you don't pass on someone you think is a pro-bowler just to give Perry one more look. However if they don't feel he's an elite talent and he grades out mid-late first or something, well then I rather they pass.

I'm in the camp with those who feel as long as its not a QB or RB you take the best player who fell to you in round 1 or trade out. You can reach for the positions of need with the rest of the picks.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



It's really as simple as this: trust the board. Finalize all of the decisions before the draft, and have faith in the scouting. If the board says Barr is the best player available, take him. If it says someone else, take him. If multiple players are rated equally and there is no strong preference, try to trade down and take whichever one is likely to be there when the next pick comes around. Obviously I don't know what it's like to be a general manager, but I would think the draft wouldn't be too stressful so long as a team is properly prepared. I suppose that only changes as the draft approaches the later rounds and the quality of scouting may not be as solid. At that point, I think I'd be willing to take a few more risks, because the chance of 6th and 7th round picks contributing much on a good team aren't great anyway. Take a chance on a great talent with an injury history or off the field issues. It probably won't work out, but if it does it's a steal.
Fan Shout
packerfanoutwest (7h) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (15h) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal
Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline
beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon
packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2
Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : poor guy can't catch a break
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

19-Nov / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.