play2win
11 years ago
Hey, I just thought it might be kind of cool to post our collective resources for gathering info on this upcoming Packers draft.

While this is not specific to GB, I wanted to share this particular link, as it shows a pretty remarkable success rate in finding 5 year starters at 3 of our greatest positions of need, Safety, Inside Linebacker and Tight End.

Draft Probabilities by Position
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/draft-probabilities-position-160112669--nfl.html 

I just found that information really interesting, and I know we all have our own links we reference to gather info as we get closer to the draft. Thought his might be a good time to pool some of that stuff together.

Here is a good listing/ranking of the top 300 players:
http://www.gbnreport.com/top100.html 

Here is another with the top 256:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TOP.php 

Ourlads does a great positional ranking:
http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-nfl-prospect-rankings-by-position/ 

Another from Draft Insider top 150 and positional:
http://www.draftinsider.net/rankings 

Rotoworld has some decent info:
http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/cfb/nfl-draft 

I like Draftek for ease of use in finding players in mocks through all 7 rounds with bios, and they have decent positional rankings:
http://www.drafttek.com/2014-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1.asp 

All this stuff needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but I like getting as much info as possible, even if some of it is more or less reliable.
joemailman
11 years ago
Anyone who wants to spend way too much time looking at mock drafts can use this database. http://walterfootball.com/draftdata.php 
Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
Draft Trade Chart 

IIRC, this is based off what the Cowboys used under Jimmy Johnson.
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play2win
11 years ago
joe 7 Mucky, I love using both of those in geeking out draft scenarios. Walters is pretty good.

Here is another interesting bit of info on projecting success and how it correlates to draft slot, #, round:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Boom-or-bust-A-look-at-draft-probabilities.html 

We need to keep that 21 pick I think... I want a big impact player added to our O or D if at all possible. A bunch of them would be nice if the draft falls Ted's way.
joemailman
11 years ago

joe 7 Mucky, I love using both of those in geeking out draft scenarios. Walters is pretty good.

Here is another interesting bit of info on projecting success and how it correlates to draft slot, #, round:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Boom-or-bust-A-look-at-draft-probabilities.html 

We need to keep that 21 pick I think... I want a big impact player added to our O or D if at all possible. A bunch of them would be nice if the draft falls Ted's way.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



History suggests Ted Thompson will probably garner more than 1 pick in the 47-73 range. He's had 2 picks in 1-13, 3 picks in 14-24, 5 picks in 25-46, and 14 picks in 47-73. Of course, you can get an extra pick in the 47-73 range by trading down in the 1st round or trading up from the 3rd round. Probably no GM has had as good a success in the 47-73 range as Thompson.

1-13: B.J. Raji, A.J. Hawk (2 good players who have probably been a disappointment for that high a pick)

14-24: Aaron Rodgers, Justin Harrell, Bryan Bulaga (1 superstar, 1 bust, and 1 very good player hampered by injury)

25-46: Jordy Nelson, Clay Matthews, Derek Sherrod, Nick Perry, Datone Jones (1 outstanding player, 1 superstar, 3 recent players who have been hampered by injury)

47-73: Terrence Murphy, Nick Collins, Abdul Hodge, Greg Jennings, Daryn Colledge, Brandon Jackson, Pat Lee, Brian Brohm, Morgan Burnett, Mike Neal, Randall Cobb, Casey Hayward, Jerel Worthy, Eddie Lacy (Three Pro Bowl Players, 2 outstanding players (of which 1 hampered by injury), 1 solid players, 2 players hampered by injury, 2 busts, 1 reserve)
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