macbob
16 years ago

Saw this on the espn boards and normally do not pay any really attentiuon to the noodle that posted it, but it gives a little more beef to last year and this year



Last year the Packer opponents were a combined 98-110. In fact, the Packers only played 4 winning teams. Of those teams, 2 were on losing streaks when they played. As for the others, they beat the Redskins and lost to Dallas. 7 of the teams they played had a losing record. They faced a team with a losing record 9 times.

This year the Packer opponents were a combined 110-98. The Packers played 8 teams with a winning record and only 3 had a losing record. They faced a team with a losing record 4 times and a team with a winning record 10 times.

This year the Jet opponents were a combined 91-116. In fact, the Jets only played 4 teams with a winning record. 7 of the teams they played had a losing record. They faced a team with a losing record 8 times and a team with a winning record 6 times.

"longtimefan" wrote:




Something I have not heard was schedule from last year to this and this sort of makes sense too



I'm having trouble making the numbers add up. We played 16 opponents, who each played 16 opponents. The total records of our opponents then should be 16x16, or 256 games. Whoever posted those stats only came up with 208. Looks like they counted the Lions, Vikings, and Bears records once, when we faced them twice. And there's no way the Jets opponents records could add up to an odd number.

If we adjust for L/V/B, Packer opponents this year were 129-129. And adjusting the Jets for M/NE/B, their opponents were 120-135 (still short a game, and I'm too lazy to go back and add up their opponents to see where the problem is).

Doing the same adjustment to last year's stats, our opponent records would have been 120-136. That's assuming whoever did the original stats did them correctly.
longtimefan
16 years ago

Saw this on the espn boards and normally do not pay any really attentiuon to the noodle that posted it, but it gives a little more beef to last year and this year



Last year the Packer opponents were a combined 98-110. In fact, the Packers only played 4 winning teams. Of those teams, 2 were on losing streaks when they played. As for the others, they beat the Redskins and lost to Dallas. 7 of the teams they played had a losing record. They faced a team with a losing record 9 times.

This year the Packer opponents were a combined 110-98. The Packers played 8 teams with a winning record and only 3 had a losing record. They faced a team with a losing record 4 times and a team with a winning record 10 times.

This year the Jet opponents were a combined 91-116. In fact, the Jets only played 4 teams with a winning record. 7 of the teams they played had a losing record. They faced a team with a losing record 8 times and a team with a winning record 6 times.

"macbob" wrote:




Something I have not heard was schedule from last year to this and this sort of makes sense too

"longtimefan" wrote:



I'm having trouble making the numbers add up. We played 16 opponents, who each played 16 opponents. The total records of our opponents then should be 16x16, or 256 games. Whoever posted those stats only came up with 208. Looks like they counted the Lions, Vikings, and Bears records once, when we faced them twice. And there's no way the Jets opponents records could add up to an odd number.

If we adjust for L/V/B, Packer opponents this year were 129-129. And adjusting the Jets for M/NE/B, their opponents were 120-135 (still short a game, and I'm too lazy to go back and add up their opponents to see where the problem is).

Doing the same adjustment to last year's stats, our opponent records would have been 120-136. That's assuming whoever did the original stats did them correctly.



Okay, I took each team and counted our division opp twice

07
120-136
w/o division opp 76-84
final record for the PACK 13-3

08
129-127
w/o division opp 91-69
final record for the PACK 6-10

Did the saeme for the JETS

07
134- 122
w/o division opp 86-74
final record for the JETS 4-12


08
120- 135 ( one less cuz of the Bengles tie game )
w/o division opp 62- 97
final record for JETS 9-7


Now it looks a little more noticeable?

Year the PACK and JETS did good, their non division opps had bad records...

Year PACK and JETS did poorly their non division opps had great records


thats not just a coincidence dont you think?
dhazer
16 years ago
I'm just trying to figure out what all these posts are about we finished 6-10 plain and simple. Don't tread on the past look to the future lol.

Sorry trying to have some fun. Like i think i have shown numbers could be played with to prove any point.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
macbob
16 years ago

Okay, I took each team and counted our division opp twice

07
120-136
w/o division opp 76-84
final record for the PACK 13-3

08
129-127
w/o division opp 91-69
final record for the PACK 6-10

Did the saeme for the JETS

07
134- 122
w/o division opp 86-74
final record for the JETS 4-12


08
120- 135 ( one less cuz of the Bengles tie game )
w/o division opp 62- 97
final record for JETS 9-7


Now it looks a little more noticeable?

Year the PACK and JETS did good, their non division opps had bad records...

Year PACK and JETS did poorly their non division opps had great records


thats not just a coincidence dont you think?

"longtimefan" wrote:



If you subtract out the Packer's record (13-3 and 6-10) out of our opponents records (to factor out the Packer's performance) you get:

07: 117-123
08: 119-121

Basically, our opponents were no more difficult in 08 than they were in 07 (at least, they did just as well against the rest of the league in 07 as in 08).

We just did not do as well in the close games, going 1-7 in games decided by 7 pts or less, when last year we were 5-1 in similar games. Reverse those results (7-1 this year, 1-5 last year) and we would have been 12-4 this year, 9-7 last year.

We were 1 TD worse this year than last year, and that was mostly defense (with a little special teams mixed in).
longtimefan
16 years ago

Okay, I took each team and counted our division opp twice

07
120-136
w/o division opp 76-84
final record for the PACK 13-3

08
129-127
w/o division opp 91-69
final record for the PACK 6-10

"macbob" wrote:



If you subtract out the Packer's record (13-3 and 6-10) out of our opponents records (to factor out the Packer's performance) you get:

07: 117-123
08: 119-121

Basically, our opponents were no more difficult in 08 than they were in 07 (at least, they did just as well against the rest of the league in 07 as in 08).

.

"longtimefan" wrote:



okay your confusing me?

07 packers were 13-3 and the opponents record was 120-136

Take away the pack record wouldnt that be

120- 13 = 107
136- 3 = 133

or 107-133

then 08

129 - 6 = 123
127 - 10 =117

or 123-117

I think that is right, not sure how you got yours
Pack93z
16 years ago
Longtime.. they would be flipped in that example.. you would subtract our wins from the opponents losses.. since we added to that total.. and the same for the losses..

I don't put alot of stock into that debate.. but that is the basis of that example.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
4PackGirl
16 years ago
something to chew on...hmm not exactly what i thought this thread was about. damn! carry on.
Pack93z
16 years ago

something to chew on...hmm not exactly what i thought this thread was about. damn! carry on.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



Chewing?!? Note to self.. ahhhh nevermind..

Add another loss in my column.

Maybe that is why the Packers lost 10 this year.. chewing. :shock:
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
longtimefan
16 years ago

Longtime.. they would be flipped in that example.. you would subtract our wins from the opponents losses.. since we added to that total.. and the same for the losses..

I don't put alot of stock into that debate.. but that is the basis of that example.

"pack93z" wrote:



okay got ya thanks!!

but why take their record out to start with?

The packers played those teams, and it counts..Just like you can't take away a 50 yard run for a td when figuring out stats for a RB
4PackGirl
16 years ago
ok, perhaps nibbling would have been a better term. stick that in your imagination & run with it!! :D

dang, what was the topic again??
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (10h) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
Zero2Cool (13h) : uh oh
Martha Careful (13h) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
Mucky Tundra (15h) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
Zero2Cool (15h) : The method for measuring first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs to camera-based technology in 2025, the league announced.
Martha Careful (19h) : A big step in the right direction. Just put in the college system is very very good.
Zero2Cool (21h) : NFL has passed a rule that allows both teams to possess the ball in OT during the regular season
Zero2Cool (21h) : Touchbacks on kickoffs will now bring the ball to the 35-yard line.
beast (31-Mar) : It might of gotten more popular recently, but braiding hair (even men) in certain cultures goes back for centuries.
Martha Careful (30-Mar) : Is men braiding their hair a new style thing? Watching the NCAA men's tournament many players have done
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Ha. Well, it'd be nice for folks to reset their own password. Via validated email 😏
beast (29-Mar) : Monopoly was supposed to be an educational game, that show how evil capitalism was and how we should avoid it
beast (29-Mar) : Lol, I was thinking username would be better, as then I wouldn't have to keep an email up to date lol 😂
beast (29-Mar) : Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (29-Mar) : sure is
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Monopoly is a rip off of The Landlord's Game
wpr (27-Mar) : 28 days until the draft
earthquake (27-Mar) : Which seemed strange to my 9 year old self, that you could be a fan for a team other than the one you play for
earthquake (27-Mar) : Nothing eventful happened, other than it being clear that he was a bengals fan
earthquake (27-Mar) : And we went and hung out with him one afternoon, I must have been 9 or so
earthquake (27-Mar) : That’s wild, when I was a kid my friend lived in the same apartment complex in De Pere
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : Only career highspot was a 200 yard rushing game while playing for the Cardinals
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : He is a former Packer. Drafted out of Northern Illinois. Didn't do much in GB.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Despicable
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Former NFL. I think Packers too
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : NFL RB Leshon Johnson has been charged in a massive dog fighting operation, with the FBI seizing over 190 Pit Bulls
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Some real irony of a QB as short as Wilson playing for the Giants
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Giants country, let's be the tall beings of lore!
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Russell Wilson signs with the Giants.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (25-Mar) : I don't think there is a significant difference. I use a user name for many. Others email.
Martha Careful (25-Mar) : email
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : would it be better to use EMAIL or USERNAME to log into a site?
wpr (25-Mar) : Thanks Zero
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : New forum has the ability to Thank a post now.
beast (24-Mar) : And the only time they have won the Championship in an even year, was the first time they did, in 2006.
beast (24-Mar) : Since 2007, there have been 10 odd numbered years, Wisconsin Women have won the Championship in 7 of those 10 odd numbered years.
buckeyepackfan (24-Mar) : Congratulations Lady Badger Hockey Team. NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : I don't think it's completed yet. it was just announced last month, right?
dhazer (23-Mar) : did netflix ever release the Packers documentary
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : And it is glorious!
beast (21-Mar) : Unsigned FA QB Rodgers is supposedly in the Steelers building
Martha Careful (19-Mar) : But I don't own a car! So can I still use it in my apartment?
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : btw, new site auto updates
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : Woohoo!
TheKanataThrilla (19-Mar) : Oops I guess I should have updated the site before posting
TheKanataThrilla (19-Mar) : Jeremy Fowler @JFowlerESPN · Follow Source: Free agent WR/return specialist Mecole Hardman is signing with the #Packers on a one-year deal.
Zero2Cool (18-Mar) : Former Packers wide receiver Bob Long, who stayed in Wisconsin after playing days, dies at age 83
Martha Careful (17-Mar) : PFOW, Pati O'Furniture
wpr (17-Mar) : Thanks dfosterf. Been a while since I heard the song.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / dfosterf

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

25-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-Mar / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

24-Mar / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

21-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

18-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.