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    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


  • How many did we lose when Aaron when down? 6? Pretty close to the Patriots.

    We need to get and stay healthy. Bottom line.
    “Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


  • What I find amazing is how the Patriots do it as a team. Can anyone name a wr other than Welker for the Patriots during that time? They have been slipping the past 2 years they only won 12 games in each season.



    The Packers record is very deceiving seeing out of the 4 years we only had 1 that we had more than 12 wins.
    Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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    What I find amazing is how the Patriots do it as a team. Can anyone name a wr other than Welker for the Patriots during that time? They have been slipping the past 2 years they only won 12 games in each season.



    The Packers record is very deceiving seeing out of the 4 years we only had 1 that we had more than 12 wins.

    Originally Posted by: dhazer 



    How exactly is it misleading? We have 44 wins in 4 years. 11 wins a year. So why would you expect in a sample size of 4 to get a bunch of seasons with over 12 wins if the average is 11?
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    steveishere
    11 years ago

    What I find amazing is how the Patriots do it as a team. Can anyone name a wr other than Welker for the Patriots during that time? They have been slipping the past 2 years they only won 12 games in each season.



    The Packers record is very deceiving seeing out of the 4 years we only had 1 that we had more than 12 wins.

    Originally Posted by: dhazer 



    NE has also only had another team in their division make the playoffs 1 time in that stretch while the NFC N has had 3 and another miss the playoffs with 10 wins. I don't really see the huge difference between 11 wins and 12 wins if it gets you in the playoffs either way.
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    All that list says to me is that the Packers, Ravens, and Saints won a Super Bowl - the rest of them just won games.
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    11 years ago

    Can anyone name a wr other than Welker for the Patriots during that time?

    Originally Posted by: dhazer 



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    Whenever I see stats like this I always wonder why they chose that particular year. Why choose 2010. Why not 2009 or 2008 or 2011?

    Of those on the list only the Saints had more wins than the Packers in 2009 so it would look even better for the Packers if they went back to 2009. Can't do 2008 though because we only won 6 games that year.
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    11 years ago

    How exactly is it misleading? We have 44 wins in 4 years. 11 wins a year. So why would you expect in a sample size of 4 to get a bunch of seasons with over 12 wins if the average is 11?

    Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



    Because he's Dhazer and he paints whatever picture he wants. That's just what he does, especially if it somehow lessens any accomplishment the Packers have had, for some reason. Just a real negative guy, I suppose. It probably extends beyond just the NFL.
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    11 years ago

    Whenever I see stats like this I always wonder why they chose that particular year. Why choose 2010. Why not 2009 or 2008 or 2011?

    Of those on the list only the Saints had more wins than the Packers in 2009 so it would look even better for the Packers if they went back to 2009. Can't do 2008 though because we only won 6 games that year.

    Originally Posted by: sschind 



    Why not choose 1990 or 1972? A specific date has to be picked and in this case it's just meant to be somewhat representative of recent history, I suppose. Perhaps the best thing would be to show multiple time frames for a more complete picture.
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    Because he's Dhazer and he paints whatever picture he wants. That's just what he does, especially if it somehow lessens any accomplishment the Packers have had, for some reason. Just a real negative guy, I suppose. It probably extends beyond just the NFL.

    Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



    I know. I've been here long enough to know he does that. Doesn't mean I don't like pointing out the bullshit.
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    Because he's Dhazer and he paints whatever picture he wants. That's just what he does, especially if it somehow lessens any accomplishment the Packers have had, for some reason. Just a real negative guy, I suppose. It probably extends beyond just the NFL.

    Originally Posted by: DoddPower 





    ok the Packers had a 15 win season in there that throws off the whole thing


    10-6
    15-1
    11-5
    8-7-1


    Then look at the Pats

    14-2
    13-3
    12-4
    12-4

    Ummm what team looks more constant? Btw Look at the Pats record back to 2001 when Brady took over. The worst record was 9-7 and only missed the playoffs twice and one of the times they missed the playoffs their record was 11-5 with a backup qb all season.

    They average 12.5 wins a year now thats impressive. Even though they did cheat lol
    Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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    ok the Packers had a 15 win season in there that throws off the whole thing


    10-6
    15-1
    11-5
    8-7-1


    Then look at the Pats

    14-2
    13-3
    12-4
    12-4

    Ummm what team looks more constant? Btw Look at the Pats record back to 2001 when Brady took over. The worst record was 9-7 and only missed the playoffs twice and one of the times they missed the playoffs their record was 11-5 with a backup qb all season.

    They average 12.5 wins a year now thats impressive. Even though they did cheat lol

    Originally Posted by: dhazer 



    Yeah, and we have an 8 win season in there. The average is 11 and the median is 10.5.

    The pats are the exception with their consistency. That's why we still have the second best record over that time period. Now let's win another title this year and make it count for something.
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    Yeah, and we have an 8 win season in there. The average is 11 and the median is 10.5.

    The pats are the exception with their consistency. That's why we still have the second best record over that time period. Now let's win another title this year and make it count for something.

    Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



    Looking at it all and I guess regular season don't mean shit as long as you make the playoffs

    going back to the 2008 season the average super bowl winner had 11 wins in the season so i guess we are right on average
    Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
    reed
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    Looking at it all and I guess regular season don't mean shit as long as you make the playoffs

    going back to the 2008 season the average super bowl winner had 11 wins in the season so i guess we are right on average

    Originally Posted by: dhazer 



    Get in and anything can happen. Especially with the parity in the league these days.
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    Get in and anything can happen. Especially with the parity in the league these days.

    Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



    1: Get in.

    2: Get a week off.

    3: Get a home game.

    4: Home field advantage.
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    Why not choose 1990 or 1972? A specific date has to be picked and in this case it's just meant to be somewhat representative of recent history, I suppose. Perhaps the best thing would be to show multiple time frames for a more complete picture.

    Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



    Yeah but usually when they make such comments they are trying to make a specific point about something. If they are trying to show the Packers specifically why not do your full research and go back one more year which would make the stats look even better. Maybe he was trying to show the Patriots in a better light so he chose 2010. That's why I said I wonder why he chose that year. You are right though. It could have just been chosen at random.
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    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


  • It is pretty impressive, all things considering. And, as nerdmann said, this with Rodgers being out a significant 6 games last season. Now, to better our playoff record. Maybe that starts this season!
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