dingus
10 years ago
Folks down here in Chicago are drooling, basically unaware that Peppers had much better games against us than Allen did.
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

Folks down here in Chicago are drooling, basically unaware that Peppers had much better games against us than Allen did.

Originally Posted by: dingus 



Except that first game against Favre on MNF when they had Barbre at LT and he got smoked all game.
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dingus
10 years ago
I was speaking of last year, Allen has played well against us many times.

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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
They basically traded Peppers for Allen - from the Bears point of view - paying Allen what they likely could have restructured Peppers for or more. My opinion is that Allen at age 31 is still good, but Peppers even 3 years older, will be better for longer.
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polargrizz
10 years ago

They basically traded Peppers for Allen - from the Bears point of view - paying Allen what they likely could have restructured Peppers for or more. My opinion is that Allen at age 31 is still good, but Peppers even 3 years older, will be better for longer.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I understand that it's the nature of the beast that a teams fandom to spin any story about their team in a positive, what a shrewd move Ted made, light, but to say that peppers is going to be a better player at 36 years old in two years than Allen will be is at best a reach. Stats don't lie. And obtw, Dr. Pepper is infamous for taking plays off during games. Good luck to you with our castoffs, I'll stand pat with the Jared Allen that the Bears front office has dealt me.=d>
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dfosterf
10 years ago

I understand that it's the nature of the beast that a teams fandom to spin any story about their team in a positive, what a shrewd move Ted made, light, but to say that peppers is going to be a better player at 36 years old in two years than Allen will be is at best a reach. Stats don't lie. And obtw, Dr. Pepper is infamous for taking plays off during games. Good luck to you with our castoffs, I'll stand pat with the Jared Allen that the Bears front office has dealt me.=d>

Originally Posted by: polargrizz 




Coin flip, Grizz? I say it's a coin flip, and at least interesting. Your worthless mother-fucker vs. the Vikings (acquired) worthless motherfucker.


I don't like either of the mother-fuckers, never have, but in his old-age I'm a little more introspective with my personal beefs with Julius Peppers. We shall see.

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sschind
10 years ago

They basically traded Peppers for Allen - from the Bears point of view - paying Allen what they likely could have restructured Peppers for or more. My opinion is that Allen at age 31 is still good, but Peppers even 3 years older, will be better for longer.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



No offense Texas but that's pretty much exactly what I would expect most Packers fans to say. Had the Packers signed Allen and the vikings signed Peppers Allen would have been the better move. Its the glasses man, its the glasses.

DakotaT
10 years ago
We're not going to be riding Peppers like a rented mule as the Bears did. We're going to keep him fresh so he doesn't have to take plays off. Definitely would rather have Peppers.
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DoddPower
10 years ago
I would rather have Peppers, hands down. I can't prove to anyone that I'm not just saying this because he is a Packer, but I just think he's a better player. I don't really care who will be the better player in three seasons. I hope and expect the Packers will be ready to move on from him then anyway. But for the Packers defense, I'd much rather have the top notch athletic ability and size that Peppers has. I don't think it's a huge difference, but I think Peppers can offer more in the Packers defense than Allen can. For every play that Peppers may take off, Allen disappears for even more. He may be giving 100% on all those plays, but he can be nullified easily at times, even by average players. Give me a fresh and rotating Peppers utilized correctly any day.

I think it was a big mistake for Allen not to go to Seattle. I think he would have more individual and team success there, because they really know how to use their defensive players. It's obvious that Allen was just looking for the money, though. More power to him, I guess.
dfosterf
10 years ago
Peppers may be geezin' , in NFL terms. I strongly suspect it. The man is ancient.
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