OlHoss1884
10 years ago


Somebody posted that most or all of the mock drafts show both Dix and Pryor being available when the Packers pick. True or false, I don't know, but it's more likely than all the good ones being gone. Bottom line: we NEED a Safety.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I am riught with you on the need for a safety, and I would hope Pryor falls that far, but I am reading the opposite in mocks. Of course, with FA movement these things change a lot. I used to see a ton of them predicting Nix (NT) but now I am hearing no way he gets past Pittsburgh.

The thing is, with the newer version of the NFL Safety is a lot more important than it used to be and it's unusual for more than 1 or 2 impact Safeties to be available. For either Clinton-Dix or Pryor I would even trade up.

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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
I haven't checked mock drafts myself, but the other guy who did said both Dix and Prior were available at the Packers pick in most or all of them. In any case, I absolutely hope we do NOT pick Nix.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

Agreed, it would be tough to pass on a sure thing superstar TE, for sure. However, college success or measurables don't always translate to pro success. Who knew - regarding Graham and Gronkowski? And I can't really think of any great examples, but probably not all college greats burned up the NFL either. And who's to say Prior or Dix won't be a LOT better than Burnett? For that matter, I'm not nearly as down on Burnett as a lot of people are. And he, of course, was not a first round pick.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Yeah, there's no way to no for sure. But that's what teams pay their talent evaluating staff for. They have to trust their opinion that is backed by lots of research, or they shouldn't be on the payroll. It's their job to predict a players success. So if there is a strong belief player A will be better than player B, they gotta go with player A, in my opinion. As I said earlier, if they are right in their evaluation, they will not only be proved correct in time, but will look like geniuses (or at least very good talent evaluators). That's obviously very difficult to do though, but that's why a team has to trust their board.

dhazer
10 years ago

Yeah, there's no way to no for sure. But that's what teams pay their talent evaluating staff for. They have to trust their opinion that is backed by lots of research, or they shouldn't be on the payroll. It's their job to predict a players success. So if there is a strong belief player A will be better than player B, they gotta go with player A, in my opinion. As I said earlier, if they are right in their evaluation, they will not only be proved correct in time, but will look like geniuses (or at least very good talent evaluators). That's obviously very difficult to do though, but that's why a team has to trust their board.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I still say we trade out of the 1st round seeing Ted and his boys have a shitty record drafting 1st round talent. Maybe we get a few 2nds where they seem to find the good players.
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luigis
10 years ago
I only see two possible scenarios: If plenty of QBs are taken then there will be many good non-QB players available and Ted might trade down for extra profit.

The second scenario is to stay put and just take the BPA and then go more need-oriented in rounds 2-3.

I can't see Su'a filo being taken in any of those scenarios.


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DarkaneRules
10 years ago
I love the draft for how unpredictable it is. The Packers rarely if ever reach, so it becomes a scenario where I always expect a trade back unless there is a value so high on a guy like with Clay Matthews. Don't see that with this draft.
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play2win
10 years ago
Seems a good S can be had very deep in this draft, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit as many as two or three picks before addressing the position.

I doubt Ha-ha or Pryor fall to us, but who knows.
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
Yeah we certainly aren't the only team in the league that needs secondary help.
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nerdmann
10 years ago
PREDICTION: The starter opposite Burnett next year will be some Ted Thompson gem no one's has as yet ever heard of. But he'll be freaky good.
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warhawk
10 years ago
I don't think trading down will be as easy for Ted at #21 than it would be if they were sitting at say #27 or 28. It will take the right scenario where a team has a chance to grab someone they want very badly that won't be there much longer.

If, for example a QB needy team chooses to wait and trade back up why wouldn't they wait several more picks as I doubt any team behind us would be a threat to grab a QB.

I think Ted will be picking a player at #21. Most these teams drafting early need players and in a deep draft it would be costly to give up second and third round players.

I could see Ted Thompson doing something in Round 3 if they get a compensatory for Jennings in that round. He could move the 85th up or down. My understanding is we will get two extra picks and a total of nine so it's not really pressing that Ted add more picks in this draft.




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