Rockmolder
11 years ago

Actually you CAN have too many 300+ lbers - they are generally worthless on special teams.

Question: Does anybody know for sure, regarding Raji's $4 million contract, what if this guy Guion or somebody else greatly outshines him in the preseason? Can the Packers cut Raji without liability? Or is his salary guaranteed?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Guion is not a nose tackle. It'd be like cutting Davon House because Chris Banjo outshines him.
musccy
11 years ago

Guion is not a nose tackle. It'd be like cutting Davon House because Chris Banjo outshines him.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



That said, I feel like we should be as excited about this move as another team will be when they sign Marshall Newhouse or Erik Walden.

TengoJuego
11 years ago
So, is this a Johnny Jolly replacement?
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11 years ago

So, is this a Johnny Jolly replacement?

Originally Posted by: TengoJuego 



Looks like it.
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11 years ago

So, is this a Johnny Jolly replacement?

Originally Posted by: TengoJuego 



Looks like it.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Seems like with the exception of Peppers, they want a lot of fresh, young legs on the DL going forward.
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Laser Gunns
11 years ago

Actually you CAN have too many 300+ lbers - they are generally worthless on special teams.

Question: Does anybody know for sure, regarding Raji's $4 million contract, what if this guy Guion or somebody else greatly outshines him in the preseason? Can the Packers cut Raji without liability? Or is his salary guaranteed?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



If he is ever playing NT this season, we are fucked.

Way too light.



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Laser Gunns
11 years ago
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Bring back Howard Green!

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beast
11 years ago

If he is ever playing NT this season, we are fucked.

Way too light.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Being a good NT isn't all about weight, it's normally about executing two gap very well.

According to NFL.com yardage wise the best two 3-4 defense are 49ers and Saints and I believe both their starting NTs are listed at under 307 lbs. Don't get me wrong, weight (if used right) surely can help with two gap.


But also we don't what (if any) new ways we'll be using the NT role. But last year the DL (NT and the DEs) were asked to play a lot of two gap out of the 3-4 look.

This year clearly they're going in a different direction as they haven't resign the two gap guys and have brought in nothing but one gap guys, so I'd take a guess the Packers are going to be playing a lot of one gap defense from there DL this year.


It's not usually done but you can play one gap with a 3-4 NT... the Cowboys did it with success with Jay Ratliff, which is why he had a couple huge sacks years. (I hated how TV people would compare his sacks numbers to NTs the played two gap defense, it's worse than comparing apples and oranges...)


And some fans have guessed about using a 4-3 with 3-4 scheme ... like the Broncos and Seahawks have done for the past coupe of years and like Capers did for the Jags in 1999 which they went 14-2 in regular season and 15-3 overall (all 3 loses coming against the Titans)... and Vic Ketchman of Packers.com has also talked about it, and it sounds like he might of been covering the Jags during that time period.


I don't know what they're going to do with the defense yet, but you can clearly see they want movers and attackers, one gapers, no two gap guys really. I think Raji, Daniels, Worthy and Guion can play two gap... but it's not their strength... well I haven't seen enough o Worthy and Guion but I don't think it's their strength either.
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Bring back Howard Green!

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



If Howard was more consistent in his effort like this I would agree. Alas they were few and far between.
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If Howard was more consistent in his effort like this I would agree. Alas they were few and far between.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Unfortunately, IMO, Raji has shown even less consistency than Green did before he was let go.

I'm not real optimistic about this guy Guion being the kind of NT the Packers should have. But I guess I'm no less optimistic about him than I am about Raji. Guion may not have had many reps for Minnesota, but neither did big Gil Brown. And Raji, IMO, has had far more reps than he has deserved for what he has shown.


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