Zero2Cool
10 years ago
I'm happy New Orleans Saints overpaid for this Jairus Byrd player. He would not have fit in the Packers Dom Capers defensive scheme. The Packers need a side-to-side speedy safety with great (even deceptive) closing speed. More importantly, they need a true leader. Jairus Byrd was not the answer, he was just the latest "sexy" potential option in the eyes of Packers fans.


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play2win
10 years ago

I'm happy New Orleans Saints overpaid for this Jairus Byrd player. He would not have fit in the Packers Dom Capers defensive scheme. The Packers need a side-to-side speedy safety with great (even deceptive) closing speed. More importantly, they need a true leader. Jairus Byrd was not the answer, he was just the latest "sexy" potential option in the eyes of Packers fans.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I wouldn't call $9M per year for a 3-time Pro Bowl and All-Pro S overpaying. Sure, he got a big contract, but I think he will be worth every penny of that to NO.

Is anybody who is a top talent in FA "sexy?" Or is that label used just because Packer fans want to see top quality talent added to our team? Aren't they all "sexy" then, because we might want them on our team?

To me, the one's who fall into that category are the ones who just have potential but have not consistently produced, and have somehow gained a higher perceived stature and value, like Jermichael Finley.

Byrd produced, and looks to have been compensated fairly. How many Pro Bowls did Finley get to?
Zero2Cool
10 years ago
I want players that want to win!

I prefer players that will fit into the scheme. Consequently this mindset is because the Packers have shown little to no ability to adapt their offensive and defensive schemes to maximize their players talent.

Byrd was 8th ranked safety on profootballfocus though.
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play2win
10 years ago

I want players that want to win!

I prefer players that will fit into the scheme. Consequently this mindset is because the Packers have shown little to no ability to adapt their offensive and defensive schemes to maximize their players talent.

Byrd was 8th ranked safety on profootballfocus though.

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... in a season coming off a foot injury that forced him to miss 5 games. Ranked 8th. Not bad.

Regardless, yeah, I want players who want to win too, and I saw him interviewed and he sure looked and sounded like he wants to win.

As for players who fit our scheme, wow. What the hell is our scheme? Sometimes I wonder... We have so many square pegs pounded into round holes. Perry, Brad Jones, Mike Neal to name a few. Davon House. Morgan Burnett had his best results playing FS, but he has been our SS since Collins went down. Micah Hyde, while I like him just fine, and his instincts for the game, he is a slower player. Raji was drafted as a fierce interior NT who could get to the QB. Dom had him standing in space... look how long they dicked around with Mike Neal. What is he? Anyone who can say he is a legit hybrid OLB is crazy. He made a couple of plays in one season trying it, but missed way more than he made.

Seems we have had an enormous disconnect between our defensive scheme and our personnel, for some time now.

I want a DC, HC and GM who want to win.
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Damn! This is the first I heard he signed with the Saints. This on top of the Ward signing. The question now becomes who? Richardson sure as hell ain't the answer. A high draft pick would be a shaky solution the first year or so. Ditto that for converting one of our Corners.
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10 years ago

I'm happy New Orleans Saints overpaid for this Jairus Byrd player. He would not have fit in the Packers Dom Capers defensive scheme. The Packers need a side-to-side speedy safety with great (even deceptive) closing speed. More importantly, they need a true leader. Jairus Byrd was not the answer, he was just the latest "sexy" potential option in the eyes of Packers fans.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



[roflmao]

As opposed to the "potential", sexy or otherwise, those content with TT's approach prefer.

Such as, ahem, the "potential" of one D. Colledge.

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dfosterf
10 years ago
Everyone can talk about the wisdom of staying "pat" with what you have, etc. Our defense is/was awful, and in the big scheme of trying to win a Superbowl, we just got left like a freight team leaving a hobo.

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