11 years ago
Hard to improve when you have this knucklehead playing linebacker

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beast
11 years ago

Hard to improve when you have this knucklehead playing linebacker

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Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 




I don't know... looks like Raji got easily moved out of the hole by the RG on that play. Brad Jones had a 2 on 1 (him being the one) and lost (but again 2 on 1).

Neal was trying to be aggressive with his rush but his momentum made it hard (if not impossible) to make a U turn and get back for the cut out especially with the pulling LG in his face.
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play2win
11 years ago

Hard to improve when you have this knucklehead playing linebacker

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Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



Absolutely. Canning his ass would be addition by subtraction. I cannot believe Ted signed him to the contract he did. Talk about wasted $.

An upgrade Brad Jones' ILB position is as big a priority in fixing this defense as any other IMO. Possibly equal to or greater than S...
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11 years ago

For me it comes down to a choice between Pickett and Jolly - and for me, Jolly has a heartbeat and a motor. He also makes the occasional outstanding play. Boyd is already better than Raji and will surpass Pickett soon. Hopefully we can have our choice of Hageman or Nix in the draft. I don't see Pickett as a major need, like some of the sentimental fans do.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



If it's Pickett or Jolly, I go with Jolly, too.

We need better than Pickett (at least last year's Pickett) as a starter. But as a rotational guy/backup salary, he's worth bringing back.


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11 years ago

Hard to improve when you have this knucklehead playing linebacker

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Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



Three obvious fails on that play -- Neal, Jones, and, of course, Raji.


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nerdmann
11 years ago
Barrington's got some potential. If he shows he can cover, he'll have the run stuffing ability of Dez Bishop and the coverage ability of B Jones.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Mmm let's see ... who's more likely to be correct on NFL schemes.... texaspackerbacker.... or you know real NFL coaches.

Well that are the fact that the Super Bowl Champion Seahawks sometimes played two gap just like every other team has... the only question is how much of the do.



You're assuming the DL having better pressure would take a double team off of Matthews... and that assumed is probably wrong as teams still chip block the best pass rusher even with better pass rushing. Better pass rushing doesn't stop chip blocking... heck teams chip block more often when the defense is getting better pass rushing.




I get what you're trying to say, but teams don't stop scheming to stop the best pass rusher... and as long as Matthews is the best pass rusher teams will scheme to stop him.

And DL isn't all about pass rushing... you only seemed to be focused on pass rush nothing else...


Heck when Capers did ran the aggressive 3-4 scheme, fans complained he was using the aggressive 2-4 an other packages too much... now that he's not fans are complaining he's not running them enough... grass is always greener on the other side I guess...

Originally Posted by: beast 



If I could applaud your last paragraph and leave out the crap above it, I would hahahaha, as you seem to be defending Capers.

Apparently, you missed the whole second half of my post about run stopping being better with mobile D-Linemen also - people with the capability actually tackle, not just take up space and not even do a good job of that.

I did not say or mean teams would automatically stop scheming to stop Matthews. What I said is that they would pay a price if they did that when we had a decent mobile D-Line that could actually provide its own pressure on the passer. With the fat turds we had in the line last season, opponents could do a lot more than chip Matthews with a TE, and the D-Line practically never made 'em pay a price for it.

I HOPE McCarthy and Capers have decided to go with Daniels, Worthy, and D. Jones for most of the snaps - favoring mobility, as many, probably a majority of teams do. The only way it is even halfway smart to go with that "clogging and protecting" stuff is if you have a helluva lot better LBs than we have - other than Matthews anyway, not to mention have significantly better "cloggers" than Raji and Pickett.

And your other post - about Richardson? Come on! He is back up quality at best. The guy is no kind of a cover Safety. The top priority of the off-season has to be upgrading Safety - pairing Burnett with a decent coverage Safety - either that or converting either Hayward or Tramon Williams to Safety and getting another top quality Corner.


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DakotaT
11 years ago
I agree with Satan that safety is our biggest need, but I think the guy is already on the roster. Micah Hyde should be beefed up a little and play every down. The guy is a tackling machine and can cover. What else are we looking for. Draft a corner instead.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

I agree with Satan that safety is our biggest need, but I think the guy is already on the roster. Micah Hyde should be beefed up a little and play every down. The guy is a tackling machine and can cover. What else are we looking for. Draft a corner instead.

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Satan huh? hahahaha I hope you didn't sell your soul for that particle of brilliance. Yeah, I shoulda included Hyde with Tramon and Hayward. Don't beef him up too much, though. I'd still like to see us get Byrd or T.J. Ward, but assuming that ain't happening with TT, what you said would be a solution.


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beast
11 years ago

If I could applaud your last paragraph and leave out the crap above it, I would hahahaha, as you seem to be defending Capers.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Not Capers... the scheme, which NFL coaches know can work and has worked. It's the traditional 3-4 scheme... which I think the Patriots used when they won 3 out of 4 straight Super Bowls. Personally I think Capers 3-4 system which is more high risk (and hopefully high reward) is better (just like you) which the Packers ran from 2009 to 2011 but got away from after the DL and DB got a lot worse in 2011 due to injuries, FA and declining vets and Packers need to go to something less aggressive.

I just think you don't understand how coaches can ask certain positions to be role players and do more of the dirty work to open up others t make plays. Almost every system someone has to do the dirty work unless you get something like a full time 4-2 cover or tampa 2 like the bears play under lovie smith.


Apparently, you missed the whole second half of my post about run stopping being better with mobile D-Linemen also - people with the capability actually tackle, not just take up space and not even do a good job of that.

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Nope I didn't... It's just clear your logic is all players equally being trying to be play makers is best which is your philosophy.

Sometimes that's true, sometimes it's not true. Players like Ryan Pickett, Brady Poppinga and many others have been best in role positions doing the dirty work to get other guys open to make the play.


I did not say or mean teams would automatically stop scheming to stop Matthews. What I said is that they would pay a price if they did that when we had a decent mobile D-Line that could actually provide its own pressure on the passer. With the fat turds we had in the line last season, opponents could do a lot more than chip Matthews with a TE, and the D-Line practically never made 'em pay a price for it.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Well if you watch the game you would of saw on 3rd down when the pass rushers would come in and they would still double Matthews. So they whole, if you do this every thing is solved is just not correct. Teams chip the best pass rusher even with other pass rushers in there.

And what's up with the stupid name calling? Fat turds? Are we in middle school or something? If that profile pic is of you, you don't look like the skinniest guy out there.

And your other post - about Richardson? Come on! He is back up quality at best. The guy is no kind of a cover Safety.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Ummm I think you misread what I wrote or didn't understand something as you agreed with me about Richards not being the coverage S they seem to want.


What I said was (and said it's probably a horrible idea), but I wonder how Richardson would look if gained some weight and played as a coverage ILB (not S but ILB). Again probably a horrible idea but just something I wondered about.

you just agreed with what I said about Richardson... yet you're saying "come on!" and using a disagreeing tone.

My post said Richardson can't be used like they want at S (cover Safety) that can rotate back and forth between SS and FS.

The thing I was wondering (and I said it's probably a horrible idea) I wonder if they asked him to gain weight and become a coverage ILB (not Safety like you wrot

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