Zero2Cool
11 years ago

I don't think any of you knows shit from shinola. When we have a championship caliber team again, I'll let you know. Until then keep pissing in the wind.

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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

I don't think any of you knows shit from shinola. When we have a championship caliber team again, I'll let you know. Until then keep pissing in the wind.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



We will be waiting for you to let us know we have a championship caliber team AFTER we win our next championship.
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mi_keys
11 years ago

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't see the difference
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blueleopard
11 years ago
I've sort of developed a new philosophy, inspired by what Bill Belichick does.

As long as you have a marquee QB, which we do, then just give him the basic blocks. He has a great RB in Eddie Lacy. And then he needs an offensive line that'll keep him upright.

And then the defense? Fill it with stars. Clay Matthews is one. The defensive line has promise. The safeties need a lot of work.

This is where I'll get heat... who cares about who the WRs are. If Rodgers is half as good as we make him out to be, his wide receivers don't matter. It's the same case with Tom Brady. He's been going to Super Bowls with a bunch of nobodies for years. Rodgers should be making everybody around him better. His numbers won't be as pretty, but with an elite defense they should be able to pick up the slack.

At least that's how I look at it.
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11 years ago

I've sort of developed a new philosophy, inspired by what Bill Belichick does.

As long as you have a marquee QB, which we do, then just give him the basic blocks. He has a great RB in Eddie Lacy. And then he needs an offensive line that'll keep him upright.

And then the defense? Fill it with stars. Clay Matthews is one. The defensive line has promise. The safeties need a lot of work.

This is where I'll get heat... who cares about who the WRs are. If Rodgers is half as good as we make him out to be, his wide receivers don't matter. It's the same case with Tom Brady. He's been going to Super Bowls with a bunch of nobodies for years. Rodgers should be making everybody around him better. His numbers won't be as pretty, but with an elite defense they should be able to pick up the slack.

At least that's how I look at it.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



what if the WR are not good enough to catch the passes or even to shake the other teams really good defense coverage?
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nerdmann
11 years ago
Fuck the Seattle Seahawks.

Any D can look good, once you're stealing the QBs signals.  
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Fuck the Seattle Seahawks.

Any D can look good, once you're stealing the QBs signals.  

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I would like to see what would happen to Sherman and the rest of Seattle secondary if they had a dline that couldn't get pressure. It is a lot easier to jam WR when you know you don't have to cover for more than 3 seconds. Do that with a line that cannot get after the QB and the same secondary will get shredded.
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QCHuskerFan
11 years ago

Sigh. QC the last time I checked there were 3 parts to a team. Offense, defense and special teams.

A team can be 15-1 and that is due almost exclusively to the efforts of their offense. The Bears in 2006 made it to the SB based on their defense and ST. They won some games without the offense even getting a TD.

The 2011 Packers defense was subpar. It takes more than just one area (you mentioned Seattle's pass defense) to make the whole unit poor. GB was poor across the board.

Seattle has the #1 defense in fewest yards allowed.
They led the league in interceptions.
They had 39 turnovers which at a glance looks like they led the league in that category too.
They were #7 in rush defense.

AND

I have no idea where you got your numbers but they were #1 in pass defense. They gave up a mere 172  yards per game. Next closest was NO ate 194 yards a game.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



If you quit 'sighing' and actually read, I believe I said that Seattle had the #26 pass OFFENSE. Since a phase of their game was bad, obviously they are not a good team and will be returning the Trophy.

News Flash- The NFL announced that they will no longer be seeding the playoffs based on record. They will instead pick the most balanced teams and include them in the playoffs, without regard for whether the teams actually won any games. Roger Goodell said " Obviously, by using actual wins and losses, great, blanced teams such as the Cowboys continually fail to reach the playoffs, while 1 dimensional teams such as Green Bay and Denver, do. In an effort to level the playing field, we will do away with records and focus on what teams feel best about themselves."

The 49ers had the #24 ranked total offense this year. Guess they weren't a good team at all.
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play2win
11 years ago
If they cracked Manning's hand signals code through diligent film study, more power to them.
QCHuskerFan
11 years ago

Definitely. With the way things are now its almost impossible to form a dynasty.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



I would make the argument that the Packers are currently a dynasty. 5 straight years in the playoffs, including a Super Bowl Championship. Best record in the league in 2011. MVP still in his prime.

In today's salary capped league, that's about as good as you can hope for a dynasty. Another year in playoffs and another Super Bowl (2015!) and it's not even arguable. In my opinion.
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