The Green Bay Packers can’t let James Starks walk

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

Remember last April on the second day of the NFL Draft when Eddie Lacy became the newest member of the Green Bay Packers and there were reports stirring about the mainstream media that James Starks was on the trading block? Well, so much has changed since that day — and for the better of

LombardiAve wrote:

I am more confident in Starks than I am in Harris. If Mike likes Harris that much they don't need to keep Starks and his higher price.

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sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

I am more confident in Starks than I am in Harris. If Mike likes Harris that much they don't need to keep Starks and his higher price.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Aside from possible injury concerns (and Harris should have just as many of those) I fail to see how Starks did not impress everyone this season. If its a money thing and Ted Thompson feels the need to let Starks go I can understand that but if its a talent or potential issues we must have a HOFer in Harris.

On the other hand if it comes down to Jones or Starks I'd rather keep Jones. Hopefully we can keep them both.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: sschind

I think we can and should keep both Starks and Harris. Starks should be a lot cheaper than James Jones, and IMO, contributes more to the team than Jones. Starks' injury history should keep his price down, and if he is used the way he was used this past season, hopefully he can stay healthy.

It shouldn't be a money thing, as you can always structure a cap-friendly contract, plus, with several other free agents we will pass on, there easily should be enough.

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luigis
Member

11 years ago

It's crystal clear that the staff has some problem with Starks.

I think they will like the Lacy-Harris combo and Starks will be again in the trading block.

What is a fair trade value for Starks? I think they will let him go for a 3rd round but I honestly think he is worth a 2nd round pick.

Unless they can trade Starks there will be no room for Franklin in this team.

Luis

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: luigis

Starks is an Unrestricted Free Agent, The Packers can sign him or let him go, there is no trading.

Sign and trades do not happen in The NFL.

Tough decision to make, but hopefully Ted decides to keep them all.

There is alway a way.

Lacy, Starks Franklin, Harris, and of course John Kuhn.

Lacy, Franklin and Harris are all signed, Kuhn wants to stay, he won't cost much to keep.

Offer Starks a fair contract, see if any other team offers him starting money.

If that happens, reality says Starks will be gone, but with his injury history, I think Ted can be competitive enough to keep him.

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wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

you are quick buckeye.

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Like I said, If I had my choice it would be Jones but you are right Starks should be a lot cheaper. I just hope we don't lose both of them. With them our WR and RB positions are top 5 in the league without a doubt. Without them they drop to maybe around 10 or so. That is certainly not bad and for the most part I could live with it but when the opportunity is there to have at least in the top 5 it would be a shame to lose it. We already have a top 5 QB (I know I know top 1 but I am allowing for argument) so it would be nice to be able to compliment him.

The wildcard could be Aaron Rodgers. While I really like James Jones it could be the Rodgers will be able to make just about any WR look good. If that is the case why not take a chance on a rookie or cheaper FA and stick with Starks to boost the RB spot.

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: luigis

I have no idea why you keep saying that. What is it that makes it so crystal clear to you that the Staff has problems with Starks? As far as trade I don't think they get a third for him. but its a moot point anyway since he is a FA.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: sschind

Seems like that to me too. They got down on him rookie year for his "work habits." Seems like they've made statements about his pass pro too.

This staff doesn't just randomly make comments like that.

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luigis
Member

11 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: sschind

Starks is actually a good running back but they were ready to trade him and go with Harris, Lacy and Franklin even before Lacy emerged.
They haven't signed him to an extension and they have leaked comments about his work ethics and problems learning the plays. All this while we get comments about how important Dujuan Harris was going to be for the offense.

Get it real, they don't like Starks at all.

Luis

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