texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Like I said, If I had my choice it would be Jones but you are right Starks should be a lot cheaper. I just hope we don't lose both of them. With them our WR and RB positions are top 5 in the league without a doubt. Without them they drop to maybe around 10 or so. That is certainly not bad and for the most part I could live with it but when the opportunity is there to have at least in the top 5 it would be a shame to lose it. We already have a top 5 QB (I know I know top 1 but I am allowing for argument) so it would be nice to be able to compliment him.

The wildcard could be Aaron Rodgers. While I really like James Jones it could be the Rodgers will be able to make just about any WR look good. If that is the case why not take a chance on a rookie or cheaper FA and stick with Starks to boost the RB spot.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Very True about Aaron Rodgers, and I think Jarrett Boykin could very well be better than James Jones. With Boykin plus Nelson and Cobb, we probably still rank in the top 5 or at least about the same as with Jones.

I wonder what we could get in trade for Franklin. I'd put him 4th among our RBs, and he didn't show much ability as a kick returner. A 4th or even 5th round pick would be worth getting for him.
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Dulak
11 years ago
I like starks and IMO our last game vs san fran I thought he could of done better then lacy as far as getting yards; quicker and more of a downhill runner. IMO they should of worn the niners down with lacy then switched to starks to rack up some yardage.

I said this preseason also - I dont like harris that much; not a fan of tiny RB with little muscle ... They cant block that well and cant break tackles too well. And preseason I was a big fan of lacy and thought he would be an excellent back and hoped MM would use him.

I was glad lacy got the ball and showed what he is worth.

this is about starks thou ... I hope we keep him ... rather let go of harris for sure ...
little worried about starks staying healthy but not like harris is mr healthy.


sschind
11 years ago

Starks is actually a good running back but they were ready to trade him and go with Harris, Lacy and Franklin even before Lacy emerged.
They haven't signed him to an extension and they have leaked comments about his work ethics and problems learning the plays. All this while we get comments about how important Dujuan Harris was going to be for the offense.

Get it real, they don't like Starks at all.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Well then they don't like the better running back IMO and if this season hasn't shown them that maybe our staff is lost. Remember, there is a year of real football between last off season and now. A lot goes on in a season. They were ready to dump Crosby last year too, do you think they are not high on him now either.

Yes they were ready to trade him but that was last off season and we were stacked at RB. I'm sure if someone would have come up and said we want Harris (or Green) they would have traded them instead if the offer was decent.

They haven't signed him to an extension because they have a loaded backfield and they can afford to play the wait and see game. If he gets a nice offer in FA let him go. Besides, Starks knows he will never be the #1 guy in Green Bay and the Packers know he will never be the #1 guy so he may not have been all that interested in an extension if he thinks he can go somewhere else and play a bigger role.

I may have missed the comments about his work ethic and problems learning the plays but I don't there were any questions this year.

The bottom line for me is Starks has proven he is a very capable backup/relief back and if he is willing to play the role and I would rather see him in 2014 than Harris.
sschind
11 years ago

Very True about Aaron Rodgers, and I think Jarrett Boykin could very well be better than James Jones. With Boykin plus Nelson and Cobb, we probably still rank in the top 5 or at least about the same as with Jones.

I wonder what we could get in trade for Franklin. I'd put him 4th among our RBs, and he didn't show much ability as a kick returner. A 4th or even 5th round pick would be worth getting for him.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



He could be but he might not be either and I don't think he is there yet. I think we are better with Jones than with Boykin (Ain't it nice we can disagree with such civility)

Franklin had very little time to show what he could do but he did gain 100 yards in 1 half of playing time. I don't think they will give up on him just yet.
nerdmann
11 years ago

Well then they don't like the better running back IMO and if this season hasn't shown them that maybe our staff is lost. Remember, there is a year of real football between last off season and now. A lot goes on in a season. They were ready to dump Crosby last year too, do you think they are not high on him now either.

Yes they were ready to trade him but that was last off season and we were stacked at RB. I'm sure if someone would have come up and said we want Harris (or Green) they would have traded them instead if the offer was decent.

They haven't signed him to an extension because they have a loaded backfield and they can afford to play the wait and see game. If he gets a nice offer in FA let him go. Besides, Starks knows he will never be the #1 guy in Green Bay and the Packers know he will never be the #1 guy so he may not have been all that interested in an extension if he thinks he can go somewhere else and play a bigger role.

I may have missed the comments about his work ethic and problems learning the plays but I don't there were any questions this year.

The bottom line for me is Starks has proven he is a very capable backup/relief back and if he is willing to play the role and I would rather see him in 2014 than Harris.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



They don't necessarily trust Starks in pass pro.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Very True about Aaron Rodgers, and I think Jarrett Boykin could very well be better than James Jones. With Boykin plus Nelson and Cobb, we probably still rank in the top 5 or at least about the same as with Jones.

I wonder what we could get in trade for Franklin. I'd put him 4th among our RBs, and he didn't show much ability as a kick returner. A 4th or even 5th round pick would be worth getting for him.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Boykin is a possession guy who uses his size to beat shorter DBs. lol
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Boykin is a possession guy who uses his size to beat shorter DBs. lol

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah, kinda a breath of fresh air for the Packers. Nelson and Cobb can be the home run hitters. Boykin is a nice change of pace.

Besides, I prefer a 15 yard completion to a 30 yard drop, don't you?


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lolleren
11 years ago
Let James Starks walk, I would have no problem with that.
Whether or not to bring him back would be decided by price, sign him for a veteran minimum or close to and let him stay, but paying 2 mil a year for a backup running back who cant stay healthy is not money well spent in my opinion.
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TheKanataThrilla
11 years ago
The headline makes me laugh. The only player the Green Bay Packers can't let walk is Aaron Rodgers. Starks had a pretty good year, but hardly a person who we can't move on from should his salary demands be something that does not make cap sense.
DakotaT
11 years ago

The headline makes me laugh. The only player the Green Bay Packers can't let walk is Aaron Rodgers. Starks had a pretty good year, but hardly a person who we can't move on from should his salary demands be something that does not make cap sense.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Sam Shields is the only free agent we can't let walk. The rest of them are replaceable, some of them, very replaceable.
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