mi_keys
11 years ago

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ uh oh

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So according to that McCarthy has the 19th highest win percentage and the 25th best wins above .500 mark in NFL history. Not too bad for a coach that hasn't out-coached someone since no one can remember.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

So according to that McCarthy has the 19th highest win percentage and the 25th best wins above .500 mark in NFL history. Not too bad for a coach that hasn't out-coached someone since no one can remember.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



That said, McCarthy is not above criticism when he, to quote my grasshopper Nerdman, "Shits Himself"! McCarthy has won a Super Bowl, but he isn't a demigod. Holmgren won a Super Bowl too, but I've still never forgiven him for taking the ball out of the hands of Levens in SB XXXII.
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

So according to that McCarthy has the 19th highest win percentage and the 25th best wins above .500 mark in NFL history. Not too bad for a coach that hasn't out-coached someone since no one can remember.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Amazing what One sure fire HOF QB and another Probable HOF QB can mask.
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musccy
11 years ago

That said, McCarthy is not above criticism when he, to quote my grasshopper Nerdman, "Shits Himself"! McCarthy has won a Super Bowl, but he isn't a demigod. Holmgren won a Super Bowl too, but I've still never forgiven him for taking the ball out of the hands of Levens in SB XXXII.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Agreed 100%

however, just to🐴 it sure seems like it's hard to make the case for M.M. being "outcoached" and routinely "shitting himself" every single game since 2006.

sschind
11 years ago

What does it mean to outcoach someone? HOw do you KNOW that M.M. was "outcoached" or how would you know if he "outcoached" someone else?

Originally Posted by: musccy 



most of the time being outcoached is a direct correlation to the final score. If you don't like your coach and he loses he was outcoached. If you don't like the other team's coach and he loses he was outcoached. It doesn't always work in reverse though. if you don't like your coach and the team wins it's never because the other guy was outcoached. its always because your favorite player stepped up or played his usual awesome game.

Other times when coaches are outcoached. When your team loses and your favorite player plays like shit but you don't want to admit it the coach was outcoached.

When you make stupid bragging claims all week long about how your team is going to kick the other teams ass then the opposite happens the coach was outcoached.

When you win a game against a team coached by someone you hate he was outcoached.

In a way it is a lot like a bad call and it is extremely subjective.
musccy
11 years ago

most of the time being outcoached is a direct correlation to the final score. If you don't like your coach and he loses he was outcoached. If you don't like the other team's coach and he loses he was outcoached. It doesn't always work in reverse though. if you don't like your coach and the team wins it's never because the other guy was outcoached. its always because your favorite player stepped up or played his usual awesome game.

Other times when coaches are outcoached. When your team loses and your favorite player plays like shit but you don't want to admit it the coach was outcoached.

When you make stupid bragging claims all week long about how your team is going to kick the other teams ass then the opposite happens the coach was outcoached.

When you win a game against a team coached by someone you hate he was outcoached.

In a way it is a lot like a bad call and it is extremely subjective.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Gus Malzahn outcoached Jimbo Fisher for 59:45 on Monday...but Jimbo won, and for the most part Jameis Winston played poorly. This highly scientific/objective process of determining who outcoached who on Monday suddenly has turned into...
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DakotaT
11 years ago

Agreed 100%

however, just to🐴 it sure seems like it's hard to make the case for M.M. being "outcoached" and routinely "shitting himself" every single game since 2006.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I'm starting to think he chokes, and if it wasn't for a game saving shoe string tackle on Desean Jackson by Desmond Bishop; I'd know he chokes.
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mi_keys
11 years ago

That said, McCarthy is not above criticism when he, to quote my grasshopper Nerdman, "Shits Himself"! McCarthy has won a Super Bowl, but he isn't a demigod. Holmgren won a Super Bowl too, but I've still never forgiven him for taking the ball out of the hands of Levens in SB XXXII.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I don't disagree and there are things about McCarthy I will criticize. For one, I think he is loyal to a fault: see James Campen for exhibit A. That said, you don't end up with a better winning percentage than Curly Lambeau purely on the back of a HOF QB; he must be doing something right.

For the record, I've never forgiven Holmgren for Super Bowl XXXII either. Not knowing the down, Antonio Freeman was dehydrated from the beginning of the game, Hentrich was probably drunk, the failure to utilize Levens adequately, and so on. Then if I recall correctly he blames it on Favre after the game (who was not the problem). The kicker for me was cursing at that fan at Lambeau at that night game against the Eagles. That was unacceptable. Period. He's the reason why I hate Seattle; I was so thrilled karma came back his way in that Super Bowl against the Steelers.

But I digress. Is McCarthy the best coach in the league? No. He's not elite like a Bill Belichick is. But he's a good coach and we could do a whole hell of a lot worse; most teams do.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

I don't disagree and there are things about McCarthy I will criticize. For one, I think he is loyal to a fault: see James Campen for exhibit A. That said, you don't end up with a better winning percentage than Curly Lambeau purely on the back of a HOF QB; he must be doing something right.

For the record, I've never forgiven Holmgren for Super Bowl XXXII either. Not knowing the down, Antonio Freeman was dehydrated from the beginning of the game, Hentrich was probably drunk, the failure to utilize Levens adequately, and so on. Then if I recall correctly he blames it on Favre after the game (who was not the problem). The kicker for me was cursing at that fan at Lambeau at that night game against the Eagles. That was unacceptable. Period. He's the reason why I hate Seattle; I was so thrilled karma came back his way in that Super Bowl against the Steelers.

But I digress. Is McCarthy the best coach in the league? No. He's not elite like a Bill Belichick is. But he's a good coach and we could do a whole hell of a lot worse; most teams do.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



I've often wondered what we'd be today had we hired Sean Payton instead. I think he has more imagination in his play calling.
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