With the 21st Pick the Packers Select?· Page 6

Mucky Tundra
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11 years ago

#51

DT Ra'Shede Hageman

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel

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blueleopard
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11 years ago

#52

Say what you want about the team's talent or lack there of, but after all the injured players are healed up, there will be depth on all sorts of positions.

I'm assuming Raji will let be let go and we pay Pickett veteran's minimum. The biggest holes would be at safety, defensive line, and offensive line.

So I'm hoping the BPA falls under those needs. If not, honestly it really won't surprise me to see Ted pick up a QB in the mid-rounds. This draft is infested with backup QB's with promise. And I like Tolzien.

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texaspackerbacker
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11 years ago

#53

Not talking about the "21st pick" in the draft, but at some point - 3rd to 5th round maybe, I'd really like to see us pick up Chris Borland.

I hope it's Lattimore and Hawk starting at ILB, with Borland (or some other similar level draft prospect) transitioning in for Hawk over the course of the season.

I said earlier, priority for the first round IMO is a Safety, but if Hyde is deemed to be the solution there, and a better Corner prospect than Safety is available at #21, then go that route.

Just don't draft a damn TE high in the draft - as I suspect Thompson will do.

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beast
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11 years ago

#54

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I keep hearing Shayne Skov and Chris Borland hype... but honestly I don't see how they're upgrades over hawk.

Lattimore seems great against the run... but horrible in coverage... it's really annoying... you see him in there make a couple great plays, and it's like, "Why isn't this guy starting?"... then you see some of his reallly bad plays and it's like "Oh that's why..." ...

Though I sorta want to see what Richardson looks like as a coverage ILB... yeah he MIGHT get blown up by some of the lead blocking but so does Brad Jones... of course they have to fix the Safety problem first.

Laser Gunns
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11 years ago

#55

DT Ra'Shede Hageman

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel

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DoddPower
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11 years ago

#56

Just don't draft a damn TE high in the draft - as I suspect Thompson will do.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Even if said TE is the next Rob Gronkoski and/or Jimmy Graham and is by far the best player left on the board?

cheeseheads123
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11 years ago

#57

For those interested, fanspeak.com has a cool mock draft simulator

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#58

Even if said TE is the next Rob Gronkoski and/or Jimmy Graham and is by far the best player left on the board?

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Yeah. Some years - or if Thompson hadn't been so delinquent or unlucky - take your pick, I'd go with the best player available, but the Packers NEED Safety help so badly, and could REALLY use a playmaker or 2 or 3 at LB so that we just can't afford that luxury.

Besides, TE is a position where it's hard to predict star or bust or in between. Take the two you mentioned for example.

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Rockmolder
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11 years ago

#59

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I don't think it's that different from any other position, really. TE just has lower positional value. Or used to have. Right now, I'd take a TE of Gronk's or Graham's caliber with the 21st pick in a heartbeat.

Not going BPA and drafting purely for need is what teams like the Jaguars tend to do. That nets you guys like Alualu at 10 overall and Gabbert in that same slot. The Lions did the same thing before they started drafting BPA. They've take a big step up from those days since they went with a guy like Farley, even though DT wasn't a need at that time.

The draft is just not something you should fill holes with like that. That's what FA is for. Even if we do barely use FA, that doesn't mean you want to go and then use the draft as a substitute.

dhazer
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11 years ago

#60

People saying a TE but I really don't think it is that huge of a need. If we have Nelson, Cobb, Jones and Boykin, is a TE really that important? Quarless did a very good job at the end and he is a good blocker. I would worry more about the lines and safety. I see on walters football they have us taking Mosely at ILB.

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