DoddPower
10 years ago

It's just an incomprehensibly stupid suggestion.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



This sums up Nerdmann very nicely.
sschind
10 years ago

Why lie?

I feel like he knew he F'd up by not having an adequate backup in place, AND by not going out and at least taking a look at Matt Flynn when he became available. So he was trying to downplay the injury so people wouldn't confront him about having F'd up.

Man up, Mike.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



What was the lie? I have yet to see any evidence that shows anyone gave a specific timetable for Aaron's return much less one that was not followed. The only person I read about giving any indication at all when he might return was Rodgers himself and even that was more of an "I hope to be back by..." type thing. Bottom line, no one lied.

nerdmann
10 years ago

This is hardly coherent as far as an argument goes. For starters, McCarthy isn't the one who addresses the backup QB position; that would be Thompson.

Next, let's quote Vic and explain why the Packers didn't go get Flynn the moment he became available (aside from the obvious fact that he had just been cut again, by a worse team than ours):

"It’s real easy to say get him. What are the consequences? Flynn was traded to Oakland on April 1 of this year. His base salary was $5.25 million, but the Raiders kicked it up to $6.5 million in ’13 for a reduction of his salary in ’14. Then the Raiders released Flynn on Oct. 7. He was signed by the Bills on Oct. 14, which means the Packers had a one-week window to sign Flynn but, of course, they were comfortable with Seneca Wallace as their backup at that point. The Bills released Flynn on Nov. 4 and the Packers signed Flynn on Nov. 12. The Raiders are paying Flynn his $6.5 million contract and the Packers are paying Flynn minimum wage on a split contract. Among football people, the Packers look like geniuses. Those are the facts."

So yeah, the way I see it the organization looks pretty smart, because if Wallace hadn't gotten hurt we (probably) would have gotten a few more wins in Aaron's absence. Seeing as he did get hurt though, they addressed the problem in a way that didn't jeopardize the team's salary cap. Oh, and once again, none of this is on McCarthy. Just something to consider before telling him to "man up" because you personally don't like the way a situation was handled.

Originally Posted by: StoicFire 



Right, because 1: Mike has no say in who his QBs are gonna be, right?

2: Vic Ketchman, the PAID PR GUY FOR THE TEAM, is gonna offer an objective perspective. Right?

3: How do these facts make them look like geniuses? If they'd have signed him a month earlier, we probably win two more games. And for what reason would we be paying him more? You do realize that we were paying Seneca Wallace, right?
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dhazer
10 years ago
What I am curious about all of this Rodgers wants to play but the Dr won't clear him is this, Does Rodgers have incentives in his contract that might not be met if he is out? And as far as a Dr he goes off what the hire ups want. I remember when Favre wanted to come back the drs actually failed his physical but yet once the trade was made he passed the Physical. Its all about what the management wants I believe.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

What I am curious about all of this Rodgers wants to play but the Dr won't clear him is this, Does Rodgers have incentives in his contract that might not be met if he is out? And as far as a Dr he goes off what the hire ups want. I remember when Favre wanted to come back the drs actually failed his physical but yet once the trade was made he passed the Physical. Its all about what the management wants I believe.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Ron Wolf told the medical staff to clear Brett Favre's physical on the Atlanta trade. There's an article here that explains that process. As for the jokers saying Favre would be playing. You're probably right, because when Favre was playing that was before all the litigation and all the legal issues regarding players health. Favre played in a different era than Rodgers so it's ignorant to compare the two tit for tat.


What bothers me about Rodgers is he said he would have final decision and also McCarthy said something about if his QB came into his office Saturday saying he wants the ball you give it to him. Something like that. Well, Friday the QB said give me the ball and coach said no.

If I were a conspiracy theorist I'd say coach knows he's going to make some coaching personnel changes and its easier to make those changes with no playoff victories under their belt. Basically, this is assuming he's decided to move on from Dom Capers and if the Packers win out, win a game in the playoffs ... its a little harder to get rid of your DC.
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IronMan
10 years ago
Has anyone considered this as a possibility:

Maybe he hasn't been cleared to play because the bone hasn't healed yet?

Its a 6-10 week injury. Its been 6 weeks.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Has anyone considered this as a possibility:

Maybe he hasn't been cleared to play because the bone hasn't healed yet?

Its a 6-10 week injury. Its been 6 weeks.

Originally Posted by: IronMan 



Regardless of it being a 6 - 8 week injury, fact of the matter is, there has to be some hidden agenda for those lying despicable folks at 1265.
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