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11 years ago

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- The official NFL statistics say the Green Bay Packers still have a top-10 offense. Through nine games, they rank sixth or better in five key offensive categories: yards per game (third), rushing yards per game (sixth), passing yards per game (fifth), points per game (fifth) and third down conversion rate (sixth). But that's not the offense coach Mike McCarthy will take to MetLife Stadium on Sunday to play the New York Giants.

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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
Differs from Rodgers? Differs from Wallace? Differs from last season?

It seemed like McCarthy, before Rodgers got hurt, was trying to remake the Packers from great down to ordinary - rein in Rodgers and increase the balance of runs to passes - exactly what a lot in here were hoping for (NOT me). The fallacy in that plan is that the Packers O Line isn't good enough to make it work. The other fallacy in that plan is that Rodgers is so good that reining him in - wasting early downs on failed runs - is NOT beneficial.

The injury FORCED the Packers to do what they were pushing for anyway. Wallace, however, was so bad that there was no respect from opponents' D, therefore no hope for running.

With Tolzien now, the Packers SHOULD be able to go back to exactly what they were trying to do with Rodgers before the injury. Tolzien probably isn't good enough to dominate the game like Rodgers did the past couple of seasons (and like I HOPE the Packers go back to when he returns), but Tolzien IS good enough to command respect and enable Lacy and Starks to get some room to run. The key, though, is for the Packers to PASS FIRST even with Tolzien - gets some respect - THEN let Lacy run wild.


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Dulak
11 years ago

Differs from Rodgers? Differs from Wallace? Differs from last season?

It seemed like McCarthy, before Rodgers got hurt, was trying to remake the Packers from great down to ordinary - rein in Rodgers and increase the balance of runs to passes - exactly what a lot in here were hoping for (NOT me). The fallacy in that plan is that the Packers O Line isn't good enough to make it work. The other fallacy in that plan is that Rodgers is so good that reining him in - wasting early downs on failed runs - is NOT beneficial.

The injury FORCED the Packers to do what they were pushing for anyway. Wallace, however, was so bad that there was no respect from opponents' D, therefore no hope for running.

With Tolzien now, the Packers SHOULD be able to go back to exactly what they were trying to do with Rodgers before the injury. Tolzien probably isn't good enough to dominate the game like Rodgers did the past couple of seasons (and like I HOPE the Packers go back to when he returns), but Tolzien IS good enough to command respect and enable Lacy and Starks to get some room to run. The key, though, is for the Packers to PASS FIRST even with Tolzien - gets some respect - THEN let Lacy run wild.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I agree - its different now because it has to be ... they havnt had a reliable QB to throw decent passes. Ok maybe thats a bit harsh. We are freaking lucky with have a decent OLine that has suddenly become good at run blocking and a RB that can spin and push through d blockers.

luigis
11 years ago
I think Rodger's injury has something to do with this.

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nerdmann
11 years ago
We all know the problem isn't with the offense.
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luigis
11 years ago

We all know the problem isn't with the offense.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Kindof...
When the offense scores TD in every series the defense suddenly shines...

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11 years ago

I think Rodger's injury has something to do with this.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



it sure does.
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warhawk
11 years ago

Kindof...
When the offense scores TD in every series the defense suddenly shines...

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Except for the fact the defense hasn't been good in the 4th quarter big lead or not.

That and in the last two games the offense is sitting on the sidelines for the final 10 minutes watching the other team eat up the game.

We haven't gained a yard or scored a point in the last 18+minutes of the last two games so go figure why were 0-2 and the offensive stats are down. I think it's plausible to figure without Rodgers, Cobb, Finley, and probably having to reshuffle the Oline that the offense might struggle a tad at times anyhow.

I think even Sgt. Shultz (Hogans Hero's anyone?) has got that one figured out.

So yeah, it goes back to where is the f'n DEFENSE?



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steveishere
11 years ago

Differs from Rodgers? Differs from Wallace? Differs from last season?

It seemed like McCarthy, before Rodgers got hurt, was trying to remake the Packers from great down to ordinary - rein in Rodgers and increase the balance of runs to passes - exactly what a lot in here were hoping for (NOT me). The fallacy in that plan is that the Packers O Line isn't good enough to make it work. The other fallacy in that plan is that Rodgers is so good that reining him in - wasting early downs on failed runs - is NOT beneficial.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



The offense wasn't ordinary though it was still one of the top scoring offenses with the added benefit of Rodgers taking significantly less hits than last year. Since they were in the top 5 in passing and rushing offense early in the year I'd say the balance was just about right.
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11 years ago



The injury FORCED the Packers to do what they were pushing for anyway. Wallace, however, was so bad that there was no respect from opponents' D, therefore no hope for running.



Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Wallace was so bad that he went 5/5 and drove his team into scoring position. Yeah, that's just awful. Lacy also had runs of 11, 6 and 5 yards on that drive. so your no hope for running bullshit is wrong as well.

Give it up already. Maybe they would have still lost with Wallace but your constant claims that "you told us so" just don't hold water.





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