Kuhn, McMillian screw up, but escape being cut by Packers· Page 2

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

Thers your biggest problem.

You have never and probably will never understand that players EARN their chance to be on an NFL team at OTA's, mini-camps, and most importantly in practice Monday Thru Fridays.

They play on Sunday, they work the rest of the time earning their money.

You judge guys(especially ones you don't want on the roster) by a play or 2 here and there.

As you have so often reminded us, Jarret Bush made a huge mistake in 2007 against Tge Giants.

That is all you ever remember him by, kind of glad he was on the field against The Steelers in Feb. 2010.

John Kuhn made a mistake, didn't cost The Packers a win, yet I look forward to you reminding us all of that mistake until he as every player EVER has done, leaves The Packers.

Figure it out!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Because no one else could have picked off Rothlisberger on that play? For example, someone who was a better player?

And for the record, you're saying that Kuhn isn't actually a good player, he just deserves to be on the team, because he works hard in practice?

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Yea...that's exactly what I'm sayIng... YOU WILL NEVER FRICKIN' GET IT!!!!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Wade
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#13

I still don't understand McGinn and this article at all. Kuhn makes one mistake, and I have a hard time remembering any other mistakes like that he has ever made, and he is lucky to not be cut? Wait, I do understand him. This year he said Kuhn was "allowed" to come back for the last year of his contract, nothing earned there. At any rate, no matter if you think a guy should be on the roster, a message of one mistake and you are lucky you didn't get sh!t canned is as silly as it gets.

Originally Posted by: Tezzy

Happened to T J Rubley.

Then again, that was by Mike "I'm going to let the other team score so we can get the ball back and come back from behind" Holmgren.

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DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#14

I don't get the fascination with Kuhn. He is a marginal player making too much money who hasn't had proper competition brought into training camp to compete for his job. Now that we have a power back, wouldn't it be logical to have a real fullback making pancakes out there?

beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

And coaches put a lot more into trust than we do... the Packers trust guys like Kuhn, Pickett and some others and therefor pay them more than we fans would. But when they don't trust someone like WR Ross, they toss them out the door (unless they got great talent//potential).

But Mike McCarthy also has talked a lot about consistency... and a lot of the players fans don't seem to get or understand why they're on the roster or getting paid too much in their minds are very consistent and have the trust of the coaches.

beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#16

Now that we have a power back, wouldn't it be logical to have a real fullback making pancakes out there?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Most of the NFL has seemed to have said no thanks to "real fullbacks" for what ever reason.

Packers seem to perfer more well rounded guys back there... but I think it's possible Quarless could replace Kuhn in the future.

DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: beast

Well Quarless sure has been a disappointment as a pass catching TE. I would just prefer to start over.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

There's no fascination with Kuhn, He's just a solid veteran FB, who as we saw in 2010 before Starks came on the scene could convert to a hb that was(and I hate this word)serviceable.

Ask any player, they will tell you, The 1st thing they have to learn is HOW TO BE AN NFL player, the second thing to learn is how to WIN as an NFL team.

Those 2 things don't magically happen, veterans have to pass on their knowledge. The good ones do it knowing they at some time will be replaced.

This is probably Kuhn's last year in Green Bay, he has been everything Mike and Ted wanted him to be.
Hopefully he can be a part of another Championship team, he deserves to be.

Championships aren't won by superstars, they are won bey putting together a solid 53 man roster who know how to grind out a 19-20 game season.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Yeah, but to continue winning in the NFL you need an infusion of talent, which we haven't done at fullback. To be honest, I was surprised Kuhn beat out the rookie FB in training camp. I guess William Henderson's don't fall out of the sky every day.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

You just answered your own question, you know what you had in Kuhn before the year started, he was under contract, and there were plenty of other positions with a greater concern.(rb, ot, DB), why keep an unproven rookie, not knowing how he would develop, when you could keep Kuhn, and knowing what you had, and move on to another position of need.

Now next year, Ted is gonna know what he has in Lacy, Franklin. even Starks and Harris, that is the time to put a FB on the ps or draft one late and let him develop.'

Ted does a real good job looking into the future, and bringing in an insurgent of youthful talent, while keeping the veteran leadership around.

The only problem is the past 2 or 3 years the injury bug has hit The Packers so hard, these young guys have had to grow up faster than they were suppose to.

Some make the transition fine, others it is going to take a little more time.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

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