texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Yes, the Packers have been "soft" for several seasons now. Most of it comes with the style of football the organization chooses to play. However, relatively speaking, the Packers have been and will continue to be soft until they consistently prove otherwise, especially against the very physical teams. Beating up on a few bottom dwellers doesn't make a team "tough" or "physical." Neither does a game or two against good opponents. They have to do it consistently, imo.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Basically true. Was Muhammed Ali SOFT against Liston and Frazier? Yeah, probably - by choice there too, but he beat 'em.

Having additional toughness, as the Packers seem committed to this year, but still choosing to play "soft" like Dodd said, should be a pretty good recipe for success.


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DoddPower
11 years ago

Basically true. Was Muhammed Ali SOFT against Liston and Frazier? Yeah, probably - by choice there too, but he beat 'em.

Having additional toughness, as the Packers seem committed to this year, but still choosing to play "soft" like Dodd said, should be a pretty good recipe for success.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Yeah, being "soft" doesn't necessarily mean a team is "bad." However, generally speaking, it certainly doesn't hurt in the physical sport that is football, and likely helps . . . a lot. I don't so much mind a softer offense given the Packers personnel, but I undoubtedly would like a tougher, more talented defense.
dhpackr
11 years ago
I just feel the Packers Defense does not have a great leader right now. I love Clay, but we need a captain. We lost Nick Collins, and Cullen Jenkins, and never really replaced either player...So yes, I feel the "D" is a lil soft
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Yes, Packers have been a soft team. Last season, I was thinking the Packers had a better chance against the 49ers in Candlestick than Lambeau Field because the 49ers are a much more physical team and those teams tend to dominate finesse teams in the cold.
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Pack93z
11 years ago
I went back over my posts for the last couple years.. I stopped counting at 15 references to them being a soft finesse team... if even I can see this, it has been no mystery that this is a "SOFT" team.

And I don't expect the culture to change in a single off season.. Mike McCarthy cultivated this via scheme and play calling.. it will take some time to correct their dough boyish underbelly.
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11 years ago

I went back over my posts for the last couple years.. I stopped counting at 15 references to them being a soft finesse team... if even I can see this, it has been no mystery that this is a "SOFT" team.

And I don't expect the culture to change in a single off season.. Mike McCarthy cultivated this via scheme and play calling.. it will take some time to correct their dough boyish underbelly.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



yep. I have been saying they are soft as well.

I think Mike finally realized it himself and the beating SF gave them last year. He looks at 350 pound DL and 310 OL and all those biceps and just couldn't imagine they were in fact soft.

Learning curve for the coach.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

yep. I have been saying they are soft as well.

I think Mike finally realized it himself and the beating SF gave them last year. He looks at 350 pound DL and 310 OL and all those biceps and just couldn't imagine they were in fact soft.

Learning curve for the coach.

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I wonder how much is learning curve versus being stubborn?
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11 years ago

I wonder how much is learning curve versus being stubborn?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



He is learning to not be so stubborn.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

I wonder how much is learning curve versus being stubborn?

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I wonder how much is stat whoring.
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11 years ago

I wonder how much is stat whoring.

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