nerdmann
12 years ago
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On defense, Datone Jones and Nick Perry could be immediate upgrades at defensive end and outside linebacker, two sore spots in that 45-31 loss at San Francisco.



This and the stuff about the running game are all well and good.

What I wanna see is whether teams KNOW they can run the ball up the gut against us. We've got Pickett in there, but he might start to decline at any time. We need more beef up the middle.
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brandland
12 years ago
i dont think so we are a very young team. we went from 28th to 11th in defense . we just need a better running game to keep offenses like the niners and the giants off the field
Mucky Tundra
12 years ago
I don't feel like the defense is soft. It seemed to me it was more outmatched in depth and couldn't trade blows for 4 quarters.

The offense on the other hand, yeah I would say it was soft for most of the year. When EDS went to C and with Barclay at RT it seemed like a little bit of toughness was added in addition to the play calling. For me toughness on offense won't be so much running every other play from multiple TE sets but the situation and play calling. Like running on 3 and 1 occasionally. Or like running once or twice down inside the opponents 10 yard line and seeing if the offense can push the defense around.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

I don't feel like the defense is soft. It seemed to me it was more outmatched in depth and couldn't trade blows for 4 quarters.

The offense on the other hand, yeah I would say it was soft for most of the year. When EDS went to C and with Barclay at RT it seemed like a little bit of toughness was added in addition to the play calling. For me toughness on offense won't be so much running every other play from multiple TE sets but the situation and play calling. Like running on 3 and 1 occasionally. Or like running once or twice down inside the opponents 10 yard line and seeing if the offense can push the defense around.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



I'd really like to see the offense eat a little more clock.

The defense is suspect. Let's help them all we can.
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Laser Gunns
12 years ago
Linemen on both sides are not really physical specimens.

Alot of weight in the gut, should be in the butt..

err I was going somewhere with this...



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texaspackerbacker
12 years ago
To paraphrase Bill Clinton, it kinda depends on your definition of "are" hahahahaha.

Last season, for sure, the Packers played kinda soft. They were exposed on defense by the Niners, but really that was just an extension of what was already happening for a few years. On offense, if being pass dominated equates to soft, then yeah (I'm not ready to automatically conclude that, though).

If by "are", we mean THIS upcoming season, all signs point to a whole lot less softness. As was mentioned, Datone Jones and a healthy Nick Perry will make a great difference. I'm still worried about "up the middle" - interior D Line and ILB. Safety, however, should also be less "soft" with the development of McMillian and/or Jennings.

And if a strong running game means less soft, well, if the line switch and getting Lacy/Franklin doesn't do it, then something is wrong in the coaching (Campen). I STILL, however, expect to see a STRONG pass domination - just with more success because of the running threat - imagine a MORE successful Aaron Rodgers hahahaha.
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See...Tex and Hoss agree on what is really important!

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DoddPower
12 years ago
Yes, the Packers have been "soft" for several seasons now. Most of it comes with the style of football the organization chooses to play. However, relatively speaking, the Packers have been and will continue to be soft until they consistently prove otherwise, especially against the very physical teams. Beating up on a few bottom dwellers doesn't make a team "tough" or "physical." Neither does a game or two against good opponents. They have to do it consistently, imo.
PackerTraxx
12 years ago
The lines seem to be soft, we're continually giving up ground at the line of scrimmage.
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play2win
12 years ago

Yes, the Packers have been "soft" for several seasons now. Most of it comes with the style of football the organization chooses to play. However, relatively speaking, the Packers have been and will continue to be soft until they consistently prove otherwise, especially against the very physical teams. Beating up on a few bottom dwellers doesn't make a team "tough" or "physical." Neither does a game or two against good opponents. They have to do it consistently, imo.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I could not have said it better. This is exactly the way I feel. Let's see if they can prove otherwise in 2013/2014.

Other teams have exacted their will upon us, in important heavyweight matches during the regular season, and in the playoffs. We've lost countless important regular season games and playoff battles on our own, hallowed Lambeau Field.

Until we see this reversed, we will be, and rightly so, should be considered a soft team. Maybe that changes this season when we go undefeated and knock the '72 Dolphins off their undefeated perch.
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