texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Just for you, Texas, even though you probably already know it.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States 

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Actually, I didn't specifically know that hahahaha, but I'm not surprised. I have read a LOT about atrocities, massacres, and genocide of tribes that had nothing whatsoever to do with whites. I suppose if you go far enough back, you could even find examples of where they conquered the other tribe and ate them hahahaha.


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dfosterf
11 years ago
Has anyone in human history besides the Americans ever fought a war where one of the stated objectives was to end slavery?



texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Has anyone in human history besides the Americans ever fought a war where one of the stated objectives was to end slavery?

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Excellent Point - and lest the disparagers come back with the idea that nobody else ever had slavery to end, a big no way to that. I understand it still goes on some places in Africa, maybe elsewhere too. The prissy Eurowimps of that era benefited from slavery and sided with the South in the Civil War.


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dfosterf
11 years ago
50 people have been killed by vending machines since 1978. Most are top-heavy, and weigh between 600 and 1100 lbs. It only takes a 20% tilt to topple the average vending machine upon you. If you get hosed by that coke that didn't drop and go to make that shake/tip move, reflect on how embarrassing it is going to be in your St. Peter interview if this happens to you.

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Wade
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11 years ago

Excellent Point - and lest the disparagers come back with the idea that nobody else ever had slavery to end, a big no way to that. I understand it still goes on some places in Africa, maybe elsewhere too. The prissy Eurowimps of that era benefited from slavery and sided with the South in the Civil War.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



England:
1772 Somersett's case effectively emancipates all slaves in England.
1827 England abolishes the slave trade throughout its empire.
1833 England abolishes slavery throughout its empire (law takes effect for most of empire in 1834; for lands controlled by East India Company and in Sri Lanka (then known as Ceylon), when those joined the empire in 1840s.




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Wade
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11 years ago

Just for you, Texas, even though you probably already know it.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States 

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Though to be fair to the Occupants of North America Prior to Europe's Takeover, the slavery they practiced was the traditional one seen in most of human history -- the slavery of enemies taken in battle.

It was the Western hemisphere (everywhere but the USA, mostly on the colonial equivalent of the modern corporation, the sugar plantation) that brought the innovation of multi-generation slavery into being.




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OlHoss1884
11 years ago
It was not illegal to execute a prisoner by burning alive in the US until 1893. The burning alive method of execution wasn't even challenged at the time. It became outlawed in a ruling by the Supreme Court over whether hanging was cruel and unusual, and in ruling that it was, they majority decision mentioned that burning alive wasn't. (The last person actually burned alive for a crime in the US was a slave executed this way in 1830 after being convicted of an alleged rape in SC that year.)
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11 years ago

Though to be fair to the Occupants of North America Prior to Europe's Takeover, the slavery they practiced was the traditional one seen in most of human history -- the slavery of enemies taken in battle.

It was the Western hemisphere (everywhere but the USA, mostly on the colonial equivalent of the modern corporation, the sugar plantation) that brought the innovation of multi-generation slavery into being.



Originally Posted by: Wade 



IIRC some/many of the native American slaves acquired rights in their new tribe. Have their on property. Own their own slaves. Married women of the tribe. Had a voice in tribal issues.

A far cry from what happened with Sons of Africa.
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