Zero2Cool
11 years ago
I wasn't there. I can't say what happened. Sorry that is not understandable by you.

I'm not sure what he could be getting off with? The more I've learned (witnesses info has come out since this thread started) about this, the more I think the only real wrong thing he did was get out of his vehicle.

The media made this into something at the encouragement of the kids parents. I am not saying they wanted this to be a race thing, that was the media. But the parents wanted this to get attention because they feel their son was murdered, rather than killed in an act of self defense. The media continues to throw up pics of the kid as a pre-teen, when he was in fact 17 and well over six feet tall.

Media wants us to think it was a racially motivated murder by a white man against a innocent black child. Not to mention the doctored 911 call to fuel the racial fire on this. That's why this is so publicly accessible when for example there are nearly two dozen murders in Chicago THIS MONTH alone that don't merit even a footnote.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

I wasn't there. I can't say what happened. Sorry that is not understandable by you.

I'm not sure what he could be getting off with? The more I've learned (witnesses info has come out since this thread started) about this, the more I think the only real wrong thing he did was get out of his vehicle.

The media made this into something at the encouragement of the kids parents. I am not saying they wanted this to be a race thing, that was the media. But the parents wanted this to get attention because they feel their son was murdered, rather than killed in an act of self defense. The media continues to throw up pics of the kid as a pre-teen, when he was in fact 17 and well over six feet tall.

Media wants us to think it was a racially motivated murder by a white man against a innocent black child. Not to mention the doctored 911 call to fuel the racial fire on this. That's why this is so publicly accessible when for example there are nearly two dozen murders in Chicago THIS MONTH alone that don't merit even a footnote.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



This post of yours was indeed fair and balanced. The only complaint I had about that old one (I didn't realize until after I replied it was a year ago) was not saying "possibly" or "maybe" wrongfully killed - as it is just as likely - ALL of us NOT being there - that Trayvon was of those who got away before the cops arrived in the previous incidences of criminal activity as that he was an innocent victim.


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Formo
11 years ago

I haven't been following the trial, but like you say, he's guilty as hell - but I'm sure our usual die hard righties will defend Mr. Zimmerman.

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Of course he's guilty. He admits to shooting him.
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Trippster
11 years ago

Of course he's guilty. He admits to shooting him.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



He is guilty of shooting him but is GZ guilty of murder? He was following TM as a neighborhood watch. Was it a smart move? Probably not. Was it an illegal move? No.

What really matters is the state of mind of GZ when he pulled the trigger. Did he fear for his life?

Could he have gotten out of the fight without getting killed and just taking a serious ass whooping? Maybe.


On the other hand, one punch can kill someone. It happened to a teacher in Kenosha a few years ago. took a punch, hit his head on the cement and died.

As a referee in hockey I break up alot of fights and this I can attest to. Once the players fall to the ice we break up the fight immediately. Why? The danger of being hit in the face with a punch while the head is on the ice(cement) the force of the punch is increased significantly as the head has no ability to absorb the punch by rocking back. That said, it can be quickly lethal.


I own a gun. I carry concealed. If someone was on top of me at night punching the crap out of me and I had the feeling that I could not escape I would feel as though the perp would beat me until I became unconscious and possibly died.

I would pull the trigger.
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DakotaT
11 years ago



I hope Zimmerman gets off.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Oooooohh, big shocker there. I hope he is convicted so I can listen to the clowns on the Fox Network cry about something other than Barry.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Not Guilty.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
They had some scientist on CNN a little while ago citing research where they hooked up sensors to the brains of a bunch of people and showed them subliminal images - so short time that the people didn't consciously know what they had seen. There was a lot of neutral pictures, trees, fruit, etc. some of people of various age and gender. The guy stated that 87% of white people tested had a major negative reaction in their brain to the image of the face of a black man. Since it was subliminal, it had nothing to do with background racist attitude or feeling, just the natural reaction of the mind. The percentages were almost as high for hispanics and Asians. The guy, being a liberal scientist, was mystified, and was saying a fundamental adjustment needed to be made in "educating" people in this country. What really blew his mind was that over 40% of blacks even reacted that way - which he characterized as being "prejudice against themselves" (kinda like Dakota hahahaha).

What never seemed to enter his mind - or anybody else sitting around that CNN table - was that maybe, just maybe, there was good valid JUSTIFICATION for such a visceral reaction.

Similarly, the prosecutor and all the liberal apologists for the "victim"/faultfinders of Zimmerman like to bring up how so many presumably mostly black teenagers had done bad deeds and got away before the cops arrived at that place, and how that fact tainted the mind of Zimmerman. Well, yeah, maybe it did ...... maybe justifiably so ...... what also was NEVER suggested - although it would seem to be a definite possibility - is that Trayvon Martin himself, if not doing any harm THIS TIME, was one of those who got away so many times in the past.
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Formo
11 years ago

He is guilty of shooting him but is GZ guilty of murder? He was following TM as a neighborhood watch. Was it a smart move? Probably not. Was it an illegal move? No.

What really matters is the state of mind of GZ when he pulled the trigger. Did he fear for his life?

Could he have gotten out of the fight without getting killed and just taking a serious ass whooping? Maybe.


On the other hand, one punch can kill someone. It happened to a teacher in Kenosha a few years ago. took a punch, hit his head on the cement and died.

As a referee in hockey I break up alot of fights and this I can attest to. Once the players fall to the ice we break up the fight immediately. Why? The danger of being hit in the face with a punch while the head is on the ice(cement) the force of the punch is increased significantly as the head has no ability to absorb the punch by rocking back. That said, it can be quickly lethal.


I own a gun. I carry concealed. If someone was on top of me at night punching the crap out of me and I had the feeling that I could not escape I would feel as though the perp would beat me until I became unconscious and possibly died.

I would pull the trigger.

Originally Posted by: Trippster 



Oh, I don't disagree. My posts was more about poking fun of Dakota for not being thorough in his accusation. 🙂
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DakotaT
11 years ago

Oh, I don't disagree. My posts was more about poking fun of Dakota for not being thorough in his accusation. =)

Originally Posted by: Formo 



You looking to get your ass kicked in here like you did on Facebook? [grin1]
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

I think George Zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place, but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods, and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he really should have done, But I think his heart was in the right place. It just went terribly wrong.

When he was in the car, and he had called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car.

I think George got in a little bit too deep, which he shouldn't have been there. But Trayvon decided that he wasn't going to let him scare him ... and I think Trayvon got mad and attacked him

He had a right to defend himself. If he felt threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him, or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right.

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