Packers quarterbacks: The reason for the postseason

MintBaconDrivel
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11 years ago

Over the past two decades, the Green Bay Packers have qualified for the NFL Playoffs 15 times, missing out only in 1999, 2000, 2006, 2006 and 2008. The reason? Consistency at the quarterback position. Knowing all too well that the man under center has been the driver of the bus in this league, the Packers [...]

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texaspackerbacker
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11 years ago

Excellent Article.

We have really been TWICE BLESSED over the last couple of decades. And before that, we were multipally unblessed for way too long.

Is that a misprint - listing 2006 twice - or what? If so, was there a different year to make a total of five? Or just four?

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Dexter_Sinister
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11 years ago

The D has been pretty instrumental to the post season runs we have had.

No one position wins in the NFL.

To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, Teams win, QBs play. They play well or they don't.

But no QB wins without a team.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

texaspackerbacker
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Basically, Aaron Rodgers has proved that to be obsolete - no disrespect to Ol' Vince, but if he was still around, he'd see and say the same. Position for position, the Packers, let's face it, are bottom half, maybe bottom ten, maybe bottom five EXCEPT for our ALL WORLD QB. With him, we've got very possibly the best in the NFL, certainly Top Five.

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DoddPower
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

That's incredibly rhetorical. However, it's very obvious that no other single position affects the outcomes of games more than the QB position, especially in today's NFL. Obviously Aaron Rodgers doesn't get the wins; the Green Bay Packers do. But ~95% of the time, no other single player has as much to do with those victories, or losses, than Aaron Rodgers (and any other starting QB in the league).

Dexter_Sinister
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11 years ago

The QB is the single biggest position in contributing to the wins and losses, but there are a hundred other guys that play roles. The QB doesn''t block, catch, run, play D, ST coach,or manage the team. They all contribute to the win.

The passing D contributes as much as the passing O. The QB isn't even half of the passing O.

Rodgers can have the greatest post season game ever and still lose if the D gives up 51 points.Or if the D gives up a hail Mary and the WRs drop 8 passes.

Teams win. Or the Packers would never have lost a game in the last 4 years.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Dexter_Sinister
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Everything you said was wrong.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

DoddPower
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Again, all of that is rhetorical. But there still isn't a single position of greater importance in today's NFL than the QB position. They contribute more than any other single position, and that's what I said in my original post. I didn't go into percentages or any other scenarios.

Dexter_Sinister
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by: doddpower

Again, he is going to be the single largest positon. 5% is a lot more than .5%, but that isn't going to be the deciding factor.

All of the coaches have a part in it. Look at the difference between Fare with Holmgren and without.

The GM building the team has a lot to do with winning.

That isn't even getting into the players yet. Rodgers has nothing to do with how the D or ST play.That alone is more than half the game.

Vince had the greatest post season QB ever and he still said teams win.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Dexter_Sinister
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11 years ago

#10

Are 95% of the losses Rodgers fault?

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

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