Who’s Next on the Packers’ Chopping Block?· Page 2

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

11 years ago

It damn well better NOT be Tramon Williams. Most of the other names in the article and previous posts with the possible exception of James Jones who isn't going anyplace until after next season, wouldn't be missed - by me anyway, but DON'T cut Tramon.

Starks has to be the most likely one to go in the short term.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Well that DEFINITELY will not be happening this year. He is the starter and Hayward is good and all but he is not ready for that role just yet nor is Mr. House. That is not the position to be cutting from the top of right now.

That position may belong to the defensive line if Raji doesn't stay consistent enough to warrant his new extended deal. If not then of course a younger player stepping up in the year ahead will determine if we can afford to let him go or if another player has to be cut to keep him.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

11 years ago

#12

Does Sherrod count?

I think Mike McCarthy put 3 guys in order of when they're getting healthy and Sherrod was last. (might not be remembering that right). Yes he was a 1st round pick, but he's got to stay healthy.

One injury that took him out two years. At the end of last season he lost all of his burst and didn't look good.

Green 16 games over two years... avg. of 8 games per year.

Starks 22 games over three years avg. of 7.3333 games per year. That's not a big difference.

Starks 19 games over the last two years... avg. of 9.5 games per year.

Then again Bishop and Starks had the trade rumors... and Bishop is gone. but Stark is already on the field. Another injury and he's gone.

But I say the the best person win... and who knows... Harris could be the one gone and the top other 4 stay. No way to call this one (yet)..... though I think Harris (if healthy) has a good shot at staying.

Originally Posted by: beast

You can't count Greens injury twice.

You count him out last year and you count his games where he played hurt because we had no other RBs.

Flanigan lost 2 years to injury his rookie year and came back to be a keystone of the Packers line.

No matter how you spin it. Starks keeps getting injured. Green was injured once.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Green got injured. Then he got healthy. Then the same injury flared up took him out again.

That's twice. One injury, two seasons.

The fact is Starks and Green have both kept getting injured every NFL season they've been in, so far the Packers haven't been able to count on ether staying healthy.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: beast

I'm not faulting a guy who tried to come back too soon, because we didn't have enough depth at his position.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: beast

I guess you could say the same thing for James Starks. His injury just "flared" up again .... and again ... and again.

beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#16

I guess you could say the same thing for James Starks. His injury just "flared" up again .... and again ... and again.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I thought they were different injuries and not flare ups but like I said they've both been injured every single season they've been in the NFL so far.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

11 years ago

#17

The same injury flaring up is the same injury.

Wow, does that even need to be said?

That is along the lines of don't use a hair dryer in the shower.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

OlHoss1884
Member

11 years ago

#18

I suppose the real question about who the Packers will cut next is What do the Vikings still need?

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits" --Albert Einstein

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

11 years ago

#19

I suppose the real question about who the Packers will cut next is What do the Vikings still need?

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884

😠 😞 😄 😱 😮 [roflmao]

Thanks for cheering me up.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#20

The same injury flaring up is the same injury.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Yes it's the same injury but you're using logic is over simplifying it by implying that means it's any better.

QB Brett Favre got lots of injuries but didn't miss a game.

DT Harrell got a couple injuries, mainly his back injury which kept flaring up year after year after year... but by your standards it's only one injury. So Favre got injured a lot more often.

That (while extreme) proves it's not by the number of injuries.

You did bring up a great way to look at it in games and years.

Starks has only played 22 games in 3 years.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

And facts are career wise Green has averaged 8 games a season while Starks averages 7.333 which isn't a huge difference.

In the last two years Green has averaged 8 games a season while Starks averages 9.5 games a season.

It's about available and playing level... not number of injuries...and the fact is their available has been about the same (poor).

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