MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

The ongoing debate about how a gay NFL player would be treated in the locker room has largely focused on the idea that times are changing, and that acceptance of a gay player would be a modern development. But it’s often overlooked that the ultimate example of the old-school football coach was also perfectly fine with having gay players on his team.

Multiple players who played for Vince Lombardi, the legendary former Packers and Redskins coach, say that he knew some of his players were gay, and that not only did he not have a problem with it, but he went out of his way to make sure no one else on his team would make it a problem.

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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
click that link ... check out the picture they used lol
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Laser Gunns
11 years ago

click that link ... check out the picture they used lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Mintbacon IS the internet.

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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
None of them ever made a big deal about it/"came out of the closet" though. I bet I know one member of Lombardi's teams who swung that way - but I better not say who, lest I be accused of the aggregious sin of judging hahahaha.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

None of them ever made a big deal about it/"came out of the closet" though. I bet I know one member of Lombardi's teams who swung that way - but I better not say who, lest I be accused of the aggregious sin of judging hahahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I think it's absurd to announce your sexuality. I thought that was kind of an attention grab when the NBA player did it. And no one would dare have done it in the 50's or 60's ... we're much more of a politically correct band of wusses now.
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Pack93z
11 years ago

None of them ever made a big deal about it/"came out of the closet" though. I bet I know one member of Lombardi's teams who swung that way - but I better not say who, lest I be accused of the aggregious sin of judging hahahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



So your more offended by the sin because they announce themselves as a sinner? Really..

We are a nation that celebrates marriage, we even wear wedding bands our entire lives. We clearly flaunt our orientation no? Even us that violate a ten commandment. A major sin.. should we not celebrate our partnerships? Our love for our spouse?

If we allowed the gay couples that same opportunities.. I truly believe that we really wouldn't see anyone making a big deal of their sexuality. Clear and simple. But because they are not afforded the same rights, yes, it makes news when those famous come out.

But I really don't care either way of their orientation sexually so to me it really is not a big deal whether they "come out" or not. People draw attention to themselves in various ways.. avenues.. if they need the attention who gives a crap if they seek it. Just tune it out.. works for me.

Most certainly Vince was ahead of his time.. he didn't give a crap either. He accepted them and treated them with the respect another human deserves.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

I think it's absurd to announce your sexuality. I thought that was kind of an attention grab when the NBA player did it. And no one would dare have done it in the 50's or 60's ... we're much more of a politically correct band of wusses now.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I Agree.


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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

So your more offended by the sin because they announce themselves as a sinner? Really..

We are a nation that celebrates marriage, we even wear wedding bands our entire lives. We clearly flaunt our orientation no? Even us that violate a ten commandment. A major sin.. should we not celebrate our partnerships? Our love for our spouse?

If we allowed the gay couples that same opportunities.. I truly believe that we really wouldn't see anyone making a big deal of their sexuality. Clear and simple. But because they are not afforded the same rights, yes, it makes news when those famous come out.

But I really don't care either way of their orientation sexually so to me it really is not a big deal whether they "come out" or not. People draw attention to themselves in various ways.. avenues.. if they need the attention who gives a crap if they seek it. Just tune it out.. works for me.

Most certainly Vince was ahead of his time.. he didn't give a crap either. He accepted them and treated them with the respect another human deserves.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Where do you even remotely get the idea I am "offended" by any of this?

Hell yeah, there is a major difference between some homosexual who keeps to himself and doesn't make a big deal about it as opposed to one who flaunts it and tries to portray it as OK - just as normal as normal sex. Do you disagree?

What do you think Vince would have said/done if his Marvelous tight end identified himself publicly as a wide receiver hahaha? Yeah yeah yeah, I plead guilty to judging who this might pertain to hahaha.


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Laser Gunns
11 years ago



What do you think Vince would have said/done if his Marvelous tight end identified himself publicly as a wide receiver hahaha? Yeah yeah yeah, I plead guilty to judging who this might pertain to hahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



you are one prejudiced turd, but this is funny.

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Dulak
11 years ago

I think it's absurd to announce your sexuality. I thought that was kind of an attention grab when the NBA player did it. And no one would dare have done it in the 50's or 60's ... we're much more of a politically correct band of wusses now.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



ya I don't know - personally I don't really care what orientation they are as long as people act professional and it doesn't mess with people or the game ...

Im not into all this religious judgement and persecution so people are afraid for people to know ...
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