steveishere
11 years ago

Actually. They do. It just makes Clay Matthews useless, and I don't think people are gonna accept that.

DE - Perry
DT - Raji
DT - Pickett
DE - Daniels/Worthy
SLB - Hawk
MLB - Bishop
RLB - Matthews/Walden
CB - Shields
FS - Burnett
SS - Jennings/Richardson
CB - Williams/House

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Clay is a phenomenal athlete with a nonstop motor. He would be far from useless in any defense. He'd probably be a beast of a 4-3 LB too, the guy is way underrated in coverage and is a great tackler/blitzer. He's too fast and strong to be useless.
steveishere
11 years ago
I believe CJ Wilson was a natural 4-3 DE. If those guys can't beat him out for a 3-4 DE spot they probably wouldn't beat him at his natural position. I think the line would probably look more like:

Perry
Raji/Pickett
Neal/Worthy/Daniels
Wilson

They would have to get some more DEs because I don't think Neal, Worthy and Daniels are really the edge rush type.
Rios39
11 years ago

Actually. They do. It just makes Clay Matthews useless, and I don't think people are gonna accept that.

DE - Perry
DT - Raji
DT - Pickett
DE - Daniels/Worthy
SLB - Hawk
MLB - Bishop
RLB - Matthews/Walden
CB - Shields
FS - Burnett
SS - Jennings/Richardson
CB - Williams/House

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



We'd get pass rush from Perry sure but neither Daniels or Worthy work that well as a DE in a 4-3. You want to be around 270-280 with great outside pass rush ability. They just don't fit, unless we drafted a good pass rushing 4-3. But it's just as easy to fix this team as a 3-4 with a few players on the line and not becoming a vanilla team while hindering your most valuable player.


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dfosterf
11 years ago
I don't like Dom Capers decision-making at all, unless I do. The son-of-a-bitch constantly pisses me off with his concepts of "prevent" and the 3 man rush. I'm REALLY pissed, because I think I need to TRUST him, as MAYBE that OTHER criminal TED, gave him enough to work with for THIS year!

AHHHH!

doddpower
11 years ago

I don't like Dom Capers decision-making at all, unless I do. The son-of-a-bitch constantly pisses me off with his concepts of "prevent" and the 3 man rush. I'm REALLY pissed, because I think I need to TRUST him, as MAYBE that OTHER criminal TED, gave him enough to work with for THIS year!

AHHHH!

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Why would you trust someone who has fielded some embarrassing defenses (record setting, even) multiple times against elite teams and/or in critical moments. Capers defense dominates bottom tier teams, but really struggles against the top teams. Obviously that would be expected to some extent, but they have to be better in the playoffs. He could use more talent and health, sure, but they still have to do a better job in the playoffs.
dfosterf
11 years ago

Why would you trust someone who has fielded some embarrassing defenses (record setting, even) multiple times against elite teams and/or in critical moments. Capers defense dominates bottom tier teams, but really struggles against the top teams. Obviously that would be expected to some extent, but they have to be better in the playoffs. He could use more talent and health, sure, but they still have to do a better job in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



Frankly, I'm not sure why. Perhaps it's the domination of the bottom-tier teams, possibly my personal adherence to the concept that it takes a couple of years to develop d talent in positions that happen to be critical for us, yet Ted stuck to the draft to fill ( read, LATE) possibly that SHIT-BOX 4-3 we ran at the end prior to his arrival...

I REALLY DON'T LIKE his d that much at all, but he DID help us win a friggin' SB. and he isn't going anywhere, plus it's the off-season, and I don't feel like bitching about it anymore right now. That's my short answer, lol
Porforis
11 years ago
I'd like a mix between our Super Bowl defense and last year's... Can actually prevent teams from getting 500 yards a game, but still get critical turnovers.
nerdmann
11 years ago

Why would you trust someone who has fielded some embarrassing defenses (record setting, even) multiple times against elite teams and/or in critical moments. Capers defense dominates bottom tier teams, but really struggles against the top teams. Obviously that would be expected to some extent, but they have to be better in the playoffs. He could use more talent and health, sure, but they still have to do a better job in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



I think there are times, particularly in the playoffs, when the defense is hung out to dry.

Could they play better? Sure.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
doddpower
11 years ago

Could they play better? Sure.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



lol, such a revelation!

wpr
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11 years ago

lol, such a revelation!

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



dontcha just hate it when someone gets all wishy washy and afraid to make a bold commitment? 😆
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