dfosterf
16 years ago

Statistics are a tool, not Scripture. People who understand statistics understand the limitations, and the value.
-Me, just now.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:




+1 A fine quotation !

(and sorry for my interjection of mostly irreverent jibberish, although I am on to something with respect to my mean truncated linemen reference... if you don't believe me, go do a "pad level" count in MM's press conferences :icon_smile: )
16 years ago

Statistics are a tool, not Scripture. People who understand statistics understand the limitations, and the value.
-Me, just now.

"dfosterf" wrote:




+1 A fine quotation !

(and sorry for my interjection of mostly irreverent jibberish, although I am on to something with respect to my mean truncated linemen reference... if you don't believe me, go do a "pad level" count in Mike McCarthy's press conferences :icon_smile: )

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



I chuckled at the mean truncated linemen. :lol: I just got distracted by the nice Excel plot.
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gopackgo212
16 years ago
I remember this same exact argument was brought up in 2005. We lost our first 4 games, 3 of them by 3 points or less. And then we blew out the Saints in week 5, giving us a positive point differential despite a 1-4 record. In fact, a +29 point differential despite the 1-4 record. And at the time, we had started 1-4 for like the 3rd year in a row and made the playoffs in both the previous years. So everyone was already buying playoff tickets. And what happened? We finished the season 3-8. And that's exactly why...

My point.. if we had played up to potential and capitalized on opportunities early in games.. we wouldn't have had to rely upon any freaking "luck" late in games.

So many times in games this season we got close to pulling off a momentum changing play on both sides of the ball.. we didn't seize the chance and lost late in the game.

Oh and these last couple weeks late in the games... IMO, you can see this team's lack of confidence shine.. they are just waiting to get beat. No luck in that.

"pack93z" wrote:



is so true and...

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Benjamin Disraeli (no, not Mark Twain)

"42.7% of statistics are made up on the spot"
Anonymous

"90% of statistics can be made to say anything."
"Anything?"
"50% of the time..."
Direct TV commercial

"Good Christ, I hate statistics!"
Since69

"Since69" wrote:



is so true and finally...

I tend to agree with this statement and it's one of the reason why Pythagorean Records works so well in baseball, but has yet to be applied to football.

"mattresell" wrote:



Sums it up perfectly
4PackGirl
16 years ago
math sucks!!!
buckeyepackfan
16 years ago
I am going to wait for The East German judge to weigh in before I make my decision!!!!!! :icon_smile: :icon_smile: :icon_smile:
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
buckeyepackfan
16 years ago

math sucks!!!

"4PackGirl" wrote:



Now you are just stereotyping yourself 4PG!!!!! :icon_smile: :icon_smile:
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
4PackGirl
16 years ago

math sucks!!!

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:



Now you are just stereotyping yourself 4PG!!!!! :icon_smile: :icon_smile:

"4PackGirl" wrote:



LOL - i really hate math! hard to imagine i analyzed credits on multi-million dollar commercial deals, eh? i know if you asked my geography teacher, he'd sure as hell be shocked!!

back to the topic...statistics & all that stuffy stuff... 😉
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bboystyle (19h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
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bboystyle (19h) : yes due to tie breaker
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bboystyle (19h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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Mucky Tundra (21h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (21h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
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