DakotaT
12 years ago

Don't get me wrong, I understand. It's just that comparing McCarthy and/or Rodgers to Belichick and/or Brady is a bit unfair, at least at this point. What they continue to do as a team and organization is amazing, especially if they make it to yet another Super Bowl, and even more so if they win it this season. They are constantly able to evolve and adapt, despite the fact that Brady isn't half the athlete that Rodgers is. Comparing any team to the Patriots over the last decade or so is likely to make the comparing team look bad, as the Patriots are truly in a class of their own, imo. I know a lot of people hate the Patriots (me included, really), but the simple fact is their consistent production and evolution cannot be ignored. Not to mention they are consistently bringing in big time rookies with enormous potential, such as Chandler Jones and Dont'a Hightower this past season that should keep them competitive in the foreseeable future. They make their fair share of mistakes as well, but their consistently is very impressive.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



To some extent I agree with this, but keep in mind, the Patriots could very well be this generation's Buffalo Bills by losing all those Super Bowls. It isn't like they dominated anybody in the big games, and against the Giants defense, they looked rather ordinary.
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Dulak
12 years ago
yesterday is the first chance I was able to watch the game (living in the uk and all) ...

I blame the vikings game (week 17)

- if we would of won that then we would of played that game (niners vs pack) at home
- the vikings game showed we wernt prepared for the run let alone the qb option run
- we lost on all accounts; on offense, ST and defense especially
- seems like our guys were not prepared for that type of hostile crowd and noise. Seems like our guys lost our cool compared to the niners.

personal opinion:
- I dont like brad jones at all ... havnt liked him since we drafted him. 56 yard QB run and it was BJ's job to secure the middle linebacker position.

... I hope SF loses and wipes that grin off kaprinicks faceoff. Sad he's from milwaukee and beat the pack; he should of just let us win 😉
Zero2Cool
12 years ago
The Packers have no excuse for not being prepared for a mobile quarterback. They have Randall Cobb who has played QB in his days and he could have easily ran the scout team offense. Considering how little he was used on offense, I doubt it would have had any adverse effect on his offensive play.
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play2win
12 years ago

The Packers have no excuse for not being prepared for a mobile quarterback. They have Randall Cobb who has played QB in his days and he could have easily ran the scout team offense. Considering how little he was used on offense, I doubt it would have had any adverse effect on his offensive play.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, we looked like we had never seen the option before. Ever. That is a college play. We should have held contain, sat back and just be patient, make him beat us with his arm. We threw the game winning philosophy from the week before with a premiere runner out the window. So foolish.
doddpower
12 years ago

To some extent I agree with this, but keep in mind, the Patriots could very well be this generation's Buffalo Bills by losing all those Super Bowls. It isn't like they dominated anybody in the big games, and against the Giants defense, they looked rather ordinary.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



True, but Tom Brady and company have won enough championships already for me to stand firm with my opinion. Brady is essentially past his prime, perhaps way past at least in terms of age, but they are consistently competing and appearing in Super Bowls, and dominating at times. Even if they don't win another, my point would still stand. They are right there every year and even the game last year came down to the wire. That's impressive, and is certainly better than it appears Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy are going to accomplish, although who knows. I hope I'm wrong. I just don't see them winning three Super Bowls and winning over 16 playoff games, though. I could see Aaron Rodgers doing so, but he would need a much better offensive line and defense to have a chance, and year after year, that doesn't seem to happen.
Porforis
12 years ago

The other and IMO more troubling thing is that our offense seems to be stuck in one place and is not evolving at all. Look at the Patriots for example, Tom Brady is amazing and he has that team consistently playing great football but they have changed and evolved through the past seasons. Where is this at in Green Bay?!

Originally Posted by: AKampfan78 



We used Cobb in the backfield and slot all season and "evolved" our game to involve him in a variety of ways. We didn't try nearly as many deep balls as in seasons past and took what defenses gave us. We acquired Cedrick Benson in the backfield who seemed to be a difference maker and a solid back we could really ride, until he went down. Once we realized what DeJuan Harris could do, we started riding him to a lesser extent.

Really, we only became one-dimensional and boring offensively in a couple games this year. Both of which we lost. Beyond what we did, I'm not sure what else we can do to "evolve" besides trading Rodgers away for a QB that can run the option naturally. And not every evolution is a good thing.
Gaycandybacon
12 years ago
I'm not gonna blame Mike for the Ross thing. Hell the guy played great the past few weeks with Cobb struggling with injures and stuff. Who wouldn't be a little confident to put him in? Plus he actually adjusted and put Cobb back in. And he even bobbled a kickoff..
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12 years ago

I'm not gonna blame Mike for the Ross thing. Hell the guy played great the past few weeks with Cobb struggling with injures and stuff. Who wouldn't be a little confident to put him in? Plus he actually adjusted and put Cobb back in. And he even bobbled a kickoff..

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



Actually, given his performance in the weeks before, I think MM overreacted with Ross.

Yeah, he muffed a ball. Yeah it was at the worst possible position on the field. But I've never been a fan of benching a player because of one play, no matter how boneheaded it is. (I'm probably the only person in the world who thinks Mike Holmgren did bad by T.J. Rubley.)

I'm a big fan of consistency in coaching. If you are going to take the "screw up once and you're benched" approach that MM appears to have taken with Ross, then he ought to have taken it with others as well. Did he bench Cobb when he bobbled a kickoff? Or earlier in his career when he muffed a kick or punt (I can't remember which), or when he took a kick out of the end zone and left the Packers with bad field position?

This wasn't even a case of a rookie screwing up his first chance to contribute. Ross *has* demonstrated he has something to offer on returns.

Yeah, he made a bad mistake. One.

Lots of Packers made a bad mistake against SF. Did any of them get benched? Many of them -- e.g. most of the defensive team -- made multiple bad mistakes.
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