doddpower
12 years ago

There is no one reason the Packers lost, other than they scored less points than the opposition. However, when you let the defense know you're going to pass, pass and pass some more, they can pin their ears back and murder your QB. This results into rushed passes and short drives that produce no points, and it puts your tired defense back on the field with inadequate rest. When people are tired, or exhausted, they make less sharp decisions.

DuJuan Harris was 11 for 53 yards and one TD in the first half. Explain what he did to deserve being left off the field? All he did was get yards and move the chains an extend drives. THAT is what you need your offense to do.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



True, I agree. Although, Cobb was in the backfield on several snaps and did get some draws. But overall, I understand your point. McCarthy completely gave up on any possibility of a running game in the 2nd half.

Zero2Cool
12 years ago

True, I agree. Although, Cobb was in the backfield on several snaps and did get some draws. But overall, I understand your point. McCarthy completely gave up on any possibility of a running game in the 2nd half.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



When Randall Cobb lines up in the backfield, I don't think any defense is really fearing the run that much. That's pretty much an indication of a draw or some variant of a screen.

I'd prefer DuJuan Harris back there because that keeps them guessing between run/pass. Cobb in the backfield says this is gonna be pass, please, tee off on our QB.
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Gaycandybacon
12 years ago

When Randall Cobb lines up in the backfield, I don't think any defense is really fearing the run that much. That's pretty much an indication of a draw or some variant of a screen.

I'd prefer DuJuan Harris back there because that keeps them guessing between run/pass. Cobb in the backfield says this is gonna be pass, please, tee off on our QB.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I agree that's predictable. But I like when they're in a empty set and they motion him in the backfield. It makes it more unpredictable for a run/pass.
porky88
12 years ago
I wanted to take 24 hours to digest the game. I thought the 49ers overwhelmed Green Bay in all phases of the game. At halftime, it didn't feel like 24-21. It felt more like 35-21. It was that type of game. The coaching was bad, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I thought the offense gave us some glimpses. The Harris run and James Jones playing outstanding stand out. There were even big plays from Jermichael Finley and Greg Jennings, so the Packer offense was somewhat capable of moving the ball, even if you disregard the garbage touchdown at the end.

The head banger was the defensive breakdown on Kaepernick. A large portion of his yards came on breakdowns. The coverage was good and he found the lane and took off. The Packers had no answer for it, and they kept attempting the same thing repeatedly. Bring pressure. That’s not working, so they bring more pressure. I would rather have seen Kaepernick sit in the pocket and have to throw the ball. Instead, they let him play within his element, and he gave one of the all-time great performances.
gbguy20
12 years ago

I wanted to take 24 hours to digest the game. I thought the 49ers overwhelmed Green Bay in all phases of the game. At halftime, it didn't feel like 24-21. It felt more like 35-21. It was that type of game. The coaching was bad, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I thought the offense gave us some glimpses. The Harris run and James Jones playing outstanding stand out. There were even big plays from Jermichael Finley and Greg Jennings, so the Packer offense was somewhat capable of moving the ball, even if you disregard the garbage touchdown at the end.

The head banger was the defensive breakdown on Kaepernick. A large portion of his yards came on breakdowns. The coverage was good and he found the lane and took off. The Packers had no answer for it, and they kept attempting the same thing repeatedly. Bring pressure. That’s not working, so they bring more pressure. I would rather have seen Kaepernick sit in the pocket and have to throw the ball. Instead, they let him play within his element, and he gave one of the all-time great performances.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I couldn't believe it after halftime when the sideline reporter said what our plan was for the second half to contain kaepernick. "We need to bring more pressure." Fucking stunned.
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AKampfan78
12 years ago
2 things that stick out to me after this loss and this season in general. First, after watching the Packers try to defend the read option, I became very annoyed. This is not some "new" offense, it has been around for a long time. The reason it fell out of popularity, in my opinion is 2 things people learned how to stop it and having a QB that can be effective from it became hard to find. Leaving a QB that exposed over an entire NFL season means he is open to getting hit a lot, if you can catch him that is.

The way to defend this play is to be disciplined football players. Trusting that the other guys will do their jobs and staying focused on yours! You have guys key one the QB and others key the RB and you take them down each play. Sitting there trying to find the ball and then make a play is how you get killed, case in point, Saturday night.


Desmond Bishop to JS Online: Stopping the option begins with fundamentals. "I think really it’s just technique," Bishop said. "I don’t think it’s really about being fast. I mean, you definitely have to be fast and explosive and athletic. But I think it’s technique. This person has this person. That person has that person. Everybody just stay disciplined. So with discipline and technique, I think we can stop it."

The other and IMO more troubling thing is that our offense seems to be stuck in one place and is not evolving at all. Look at the Patriots for example, Tom Brady is amazing and he has that team consistently playing great football but they have changed and evolved through the past seasons. Where is this at in Green Bay?!
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doddpower
12 years ago

The other and IMO more troubling thing is that our offense seems to be stuck in one place and is not evolving at all. Look at the Patriots for example, Tom Brady is amazing and he has that team consistently playing great football but they have changed and evolved through the past seasons. Where is this at in Green Bay?!

Originally Posted by: AKampfan78 



Well, two things come to mind to answer this question: 1.) Mike McCarthy is not even close to being Bill Belichick, and generally speaking, 2.) Aaron Rodgers is no Tom Brady. Seems straight-forward to me.
AKampfan78
12 years ago

Well, two things come to mind to answer this question: 1.) Mike McCarthy is not even close to being Bill Belichick, and generally speaking, 2.) Aaron Rodgers is no Tom Brady. Seems straight-forward to me.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



I agree but I am not saying they have to be, but a little more creativity would help a lot!
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Cheesey
12 years ago
The Packers got whipped in every aspect of the game. The score was closer then it should have been.
The week before, they made sure Peterson didn't get away, yet against the niners QB, they didn't keep a "spy" on him to make sure he didn't run away.
It was an awful showing, and reminded me of last season'e defense. (Or lack of D i should say)
And where were our great WR's? Seems that no one could get open.

It seemed that there was no preperation for what the Niners were going to do, and no half time adjustments.
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doddpower
12 years ago

I agree but I am not saying they have to be, but a little more creativity would help a lot!

Originally Posted by: AKampfan78 



Don't get me wrong, I understand. It's just that comparing McCarthy and/or Rodgers to Belichick and/or Brady is a bit unfair, at least at this point. What they continue to do as a team and organization is amazing, especially if they make it to yet another Super Bowl, and even more so if they win it this season. They are constantly able to evolve and adapt, despite the fact that Brady isn't half the athlete that Rodgers is. Comparing any team to the Patriots over the last decade or so is likely to make the comparing team look bad, as the Patriots are truly in a class of their own, imo. I know a lot of people hate the Patriots (me included, really), but the simple fact is their consistent production and evolution cannot be ignored. Not to mention they are consistently bringing in big time rookies with enormous potential, such as Chandler Jones and Dont'a Hightower this past season that should keep them competitive in the foreseeable future. They make their fair share of mistakes as well, but their consistently is very impressive.
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