Gaycandybacon
12 years ago
Ya it's shannahans fault. Who would of thought the turf would sack him and roll under his leg. Shannahan sure did.

The only way it would be Shannahans fault is if he forced RG3 to go out and play if RG3 DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY. It's not the coaches fault. #Injurieshappen
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12 years ago
Slightly off topic but let's throw Nick Collins into the mix. If some of the doctors said he's ok to play and some doctors said they didn't think so, Ted, Nick and Mike all agree that he can play and Mike put him back on the field after surgery and he ended up paralyzed that would not constituent firing a HC.

The reason I mention Nick is his potential injury could be paralysis which is far more serious than RG3's knee injury.

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TheKanataThrilla
12 years ago

Slightly off topic but let's throw Nick Collins into the mix. If some of the doctors said he's ok to play and some doctors said they didn't think so, Ted, Nick and Mike all agree that he can play and Mike put him back on the field after surgery and he ended up paralyzed that would not constituent firing a HC.

The reason I mention Nick is his potential injury could be paralysis which is far more serious than RG3's knee injury.

Originally Posted by: wpr 




If that was Aaron Rodgers hobbling on the field being teed off on by the Seahawk defence would you not be yelling to get him the hell out of the game? I know I would and I would blame the fuck out of the coach should any permanent damage be done.
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12 years ago

If that was Aaron Rodgers hobbling on the field being teed off on by the Seahawk defence would you not be yelling to get him the hell out of the game? I know I would and I would blame the fuck out of the coach should any permanent damage be done.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



yelling at coach < firing him
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Formo
12 years ago

My opinion of Shannahan the man aside.. no, players know their bodies better than anyone. If a player says they can play.. and that player with limitations due to the ding presents a better option on winning that game.. he plays.

It wasn't like the Ravens game were the Docs never got a chance to thumb up or down it.. it is between the coaches and player if he plays upon being cleared.

I heard on the Radio this morning that due to RGIII's age, an adult should have pulled him. Is RG3 not old enough to vote, drink or serve for this country. Then he is certainly old enough to make this decision for himself.

I disagree with the premise that this falls on the coach.. it doesn't, it falls upon the player if he is good to go, and then it is on the coach if this player gives them the best shot to win.

Jared Allen played the most of the season with a torn labrum for instance.. he played because he thought he could and the Vikes thought he gave them the best chance to win. Same with Suggs, Lewis, Justin Smith... they all have decided that they can play through it.

Cutler a couple years ago, decided he couldn't go. Ponder had it decided for him that he didn't give the Vikes the best chance to win this past weekend. This happens all the time.

The only time I would disagree, is in head related injuries where the player may be compromised mentally, at that point the doctors and coaches should make the call to sit the player.

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Agreed. That, and we have to take injuries case by case. No broad generalizations. I think it's ludicrous that fans sitting on their fat asses (including myself) are calling Ponder/Cutler pussies because they have taken themselves out of playoff games. Yeah, it's easy to make a decision for a guy when it's not YOUR elbow/leg/etc. that's jacked up.

His demeanor aside, I actually like Cutler's grittiness.
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Agreed. That, and we have to take injuries case by case. No broad generalizations. I think it's ludicrous that fans sitting on their fat asses (including myself) are calling Ponder/Cutler pussies because they have taken themselves out of playoff games. Yeah, it's easy to make a decision for a guy when it's not YOUR elbow/leg/etc. that's jacked up.

His demeanor aside, I actually like Cutler's grittiness.

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It is our duty to question their manhood. Especially when it is a player from the other team.
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DakotaT
12 years ago
Shanahan = douchebag!

I still remember the Donkeys ZBS taking out a Cincinatti Bengal DL on MNF and consequently the other three DL were in the grills of Shanahan and Kubiak. I was really hoping the two douchebag coaches would have been seriously injured.

As for Griffin, it was his decision to keep playing and Shanahan shouldn't be fired. Washington was the inferior team to the Seahags.
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Pack93z
12 years ago

Shanahan = douchebag!

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I agreed with Troy today.

But that doesn't change the elements of my beliefs in this case. Even Billy the Cheat would get the nod here.. that f*&%ing piece of mushy and rotten dog feces.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
TheKanataThrilla
12 years ago

yelling at coach < firing him

Originally Posted by: wpr 


I'd be yelling at him to get him out of the game as a fan. If he kept him in and he ended up with injuries that could be career threating I would want him fired. How rare is it to have a franchise QB. What was the name of the last franchise QB in Washington. Rypien? Theismann?
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12 years ago
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