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16 years ago
I continue to think of us as "built to win" contender that's just having a bad year. But the reality is, we've only had one winning season in the past four years. Today's the first time I've really thought of it in those terms.

Last year, I thought we were on the verge of being a powerhouse for the long term, regardless of who was behind center. But I'm really beginning to wonder where we're headed.

Thoughts?

(Hate to be negative, but damn it's been a rough month).
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
it's been a roooooough month
dingus
16 years ago
I still think we have the makings of a great team, I am, however, thoroughly worried about the coaching.
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nathaniel
16 years ago
I honestly don't know what the problem is. I'm one of the people who stood by Ted Thompson during the whole Favre thing, and I still do on that matter...

But, like the title of this thread says, one winning record in four seasons. Living in Iowa I haven't been able to watch 4 of the last 5 games because they've bumped the Packers games in favor of Bears and Vikings games, so I can't honestly say I've seen what the on-field problems are. I know in the games I have seen, the defense has been less than stellar. There were a few games where the offense did their best to keep us in games, but the defense let it get out of hand. As far as coaching, I honestly can't say because like I said I haven't been able to watch many games. Does McCarthy seem to be calling plays differently than he did last year?

I feel so disconnected from the Packers this year, because we moved to a house where we don't have internet so I can't check on stats and come here to discuss games as often as I could before. Not to mention, again, that they keep bumping the damn games. It's pretty depressing. And what little news I can get is not news I want to hear. I miss my Packers. Ha!
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porky88
16 years ago
A bunch of underachievers is we're the Packers are heading.

I think you look at the last four years and you ask yourself about the draft first. Who's drafted better than the Packers?

Maybe San Diego and Pittsburgh, but beyond that maybe nobody.

Then you look at free agency.

Who's made their team better via free agency or trades than the Packers?

The answer is quite long. New England, Minnesota, Chicago, New Orleans, Dallas, Philadelphia, Arizona, New York Giants, New York Jets, Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Ravens, and on and on.

I think based on at least the facts at hand, you can speculate that the Packers will not get better unless they make some moves in free agency. Nobody can tell me that the right player isn't out there for the Packers to go get. GB can't go wild like Washington has done in the past, but they can't do it their way either.

So where are the Packers heading?

They aren't heading anywhere unless they spend money in free agency. The core of the team hsa been built and now it's time to put them over the top.
DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Agreed. One least one FA signing is all I ask.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
RaiderPride
16 years ago

Agreed. One least one FA signing is all I ask.

"DarkaneRules" wrote:



I will take two free agent signings... and a trade or two.

I think Harris (Though I love the guy, for what he has done for this team.) is great trade bait to fix one area and give youth a chance to fill his shoes.

Raiders Punter Shane Lechler and Peppers would be a priority to me if I was T.T.

Read and speculate boys and girls....

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2009 
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Pack93z
16 years ago
Where are the Packers heading.. in two weeks.. home.

The rest is trivial at this point for the lost 08' season.

Underachievers you say.. the is one hell of an understatement.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
RaiderPride
16 years ago

Where are the Packers heading.. in two weeks.. home.

The rest is trivial at this point for the lost 08' season.

Underachievers you say.. the is one hell of an understatement.

"pack93z" wrote:



Aaron will not be heading home.

He will spend most of the off season in G.B. making himself better. It is in his nature.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
dhazer
16 years ago
I saw one name on that list that was posted but give me one other player besides that and damn our d would be set and the fire would be back but i see a better chance of Brett sending Ted Thompson a x-mas present.

Alot of people are saying sign Peppers but how about Peppers and Ray Lewis could you imagine that. There would be some fire on that defense with Ray Ray.
But i don't see him leaving Baltimore.
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