Bigger Rivalry? Bears or Vikings· Page 4

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

The oldest rivalry in the league is between the Chicago Bears and the Arizona Cardinals, the only two remaining NFL charter member teams, dating back to 1920.

The oldest continuous (at least one game per non-strike season) rivalry in the league is between the Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers, dating back to 1922 and now encompassing about 170 games.

In terms of length, no other rivalry comes even close to these two.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

For a rivalry that's allegedly spanned 9 decades, this is the first I've heard of it. The Bears and Cardinals do not play one another at least once a year, so how can this be remotely considered a rivalry? Where's the hatred between the two teams, where did the hatred come from?

I guess I'm not understanding how this works. So, the Cardinals played the Bears before the Packers, therefore that means they have a longer, more storied rivalry than teams like the Vikings or Packers whom they play each twice a year and have for a very long time?

Have the Cardinals played the Bears every season since being in the NFL?
Didn't the Packers first play those same very Cardinals in 1921? Or was '21 the suspended year for the Packers due to having a College player on board?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#32

260 Minnesota, 1991-2007

hah we ended the Vikings no shut out streak at 260 😛

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#33

Oh please. They've played (by quick count) 80 games between each other. The Cardinals and Bears does not deserve to be mentioned as a rivalry. The Steelers Browns rivalry deserves to be mentioned before them.

dhazer
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#34

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

The team was established in Chicago in 1898 and was a charter member of the NFL in 1920. Along the with Chicago Bears, the club is one of two franchises still in operation since the league's founding.

That would be the only reason i could remotely help the case for a rivalry

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Rockmolder
Honored Member

15 years ago

#35

I agree. They're not really rivals. They where once, but there are barely any people old enough to really remember that. Maybe old man Foster remembers. I think that the rivalry pretty much faded after the Cards moved to St. Louis. Like I said, though, I bet that there are some old folks around who still see it as quite a match-up.

You don't have to play eachother once every year, though. I feel that the rivalry between us and the Cowboys is a bigger one than us and the Lions. Same goes for the Colts and the Patriots.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#36

The Cowboys/Packers holds far more ground than Cardinals/Bears. The Cowboys and Packers fought for Championships and Titles. Something, meaningful.

I'm going to be stubborn on this one. I just can't fathom anyone seriously mentioning the Cardinals/Bears "rivalry" in a thread about the Packers-Bears/Vikings. It just doesn't deserve mentioning. Although, I am glad it was because I learned something by reading up on it.

Formo
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#37

I've only been around during the Vikings/Packers rivalry so this is the biggest for me.

I've always wondered why there isn't a larger Bears presence on this forum. Vikings have some good reps here.

"TheEngineer" wrote:

Awwww!! Gosh, thanks! lol

Let me ask you this: What is the biggest collegiate rivalry in football? What's the consensus on that?

"Formo" wrote:

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller...?

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

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