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12 years ago

During Jermichael Finley's rookie season, he spoke out saying Aaron Rodgers needs to the throw the ball over his other shoulder or something to that effect. I think during the 2011 he said something about their chemistry and I believe he mentioned something about being on the same page with Aaron Rodgers prior to the 2012 season.

If Finley doesn't think Rodgers is a good leader, it wouldn't surprise me. How many times has Rodgers led a come from behind victory in the 4th quarter?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



3 - 4th quarter comebacks and 6 game winning drives in 4 seasons. I would say the numbers are somewhat disproportionate to those of Favre, who had 8 4QC and 10 GWD in his first 4 seasons.

I think the numbers are skewed by Rodgers being on better teams those first 4 years, thereby being ahead more in games. Favre experience a similar dipping in those totals between '95-98, where he only had 2 4QC and 6 GWD.

I'd say, both had similar talent around them over this 4 year stretch, and both won SBs, with Rodgers having 1 more 4QC than Favre and same 6 GWDs during that run.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=FavrBr00 
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RodgAa00 

Can't say who of the two was/is a better leader, but I would pick Rodgers over Favre, based on 4 QCs as the barometer. I just think he has better leadership qualities period.

Now, if the barometer was 4th quarter throw aways....
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12 years ago

Aaron Rodgers called it “silly.”

Mike McCarthy called it “ignorant.”

And Jermichael Finley said he had nothing to do with it.

When Blake Baratz, the agent for Finley and Packers linebacker Desmond Bishop, tweeted over the weekend that he didn’t think Rodgers was a great leader, it was worth wondering whether that may have come from Finley.

After all, Finley has talked before about how his chemistry with Rodgers hasn’t always been what he hoped.

But in his first public comments since Baratz’s caused the stir, the Packers tight end said none of it came from him.

“I’d say zero percent of it,” Finley said. “Like I said, he’s got his own opinion. He’s an agent. He has tons of clients around the league. It’s not my problem what he sends out. I could (not) care less as long as he takes care of my business at the end of the day.”

For what it’s worth, when Finley was asked about Rodgers’ leadership ability, he said: “He’s a leader, man. Me and him talk and meet often, so I know his leadership role. I know what he can do. He’s a leader at the end of the day.”


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