play2win
12 years ago

What will be interesting is whether Finley finds a new agent.


Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




Absolutely. This is Finley's livelihood. I can't imagine this is sitting well with anyone in the Packers organization, Finley, himself, included. Unless... Baratz's comments reflected those of his client, and he simply failed to use his better judgement.

Look, I get Zero2Cool lumping me into some kind of "mob = stupidity" category (which I do not appreciate BTW) simply for my posting this. However, I am not buying any of what Finley is selling. If his own agent starts calling out the leader of our entire offense, something is rotten.

This from USA Today:

"Finley came out in June and stressed the importance of having a relationship with Rodgers in the Journal-Sentinel.

"Having an off-season, having chemistry with your quarterback is a big key to success," Finley said. "I promise you."

Baratz's comments are strange for a litany of reasons. A few of the more compelling include:

1. Baratz deftly undermines Finley's summer comments about chemistry in 140 characters.

2. Why would a man who makes his living representing NFL players, disparage NFL players publicly?

3. It's in Baratz's, best interest to have Aaron Rodgers happy, confident, and willing to throw to his client.

4. It's just a bad opinion. Rodgers is an elite quarterback."
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/09/18/green-bay-packers-jermichael-finleys-agent-calls-out-aaron-rodgers-leadership-baratz/70000567/1#.UFjQmY6f_0c 

Am I hoping, as a fan, that these were simply foolish, reckless comments by Finley's agent? YES!!! I'm hoping Finley's turnaround in his public statements since 2010 are real and sincere. I'm also hoping he can put his money where his mouth is and start playing the kind of football that he is paid to play. However, his play has not been anything close to what we were lead to believe it would be, and these comments by Baratz are by no means helpful to our team.
PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago

Opinions are like A-holes.....everyone has one.

I LOVED Jones reply about AROD though.
He has the right attitude. He knew he messed up, and AROD was just letting his emotions get to him.
What would you rather have? A QB that doesn't care, or one that SHOWS he cares, not only by his yelling but by his own actions? Aaron Rodgers puts his own body on the line every play, and will do whatever he can to win a game. Jones sees that, and knows that.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Jones definately is displaying the proper attitude. Especially when you consider, that Rodgers never should have thrown that pass in the first place. Jones only cut the route because the defender was standing right in the middle of it. ARod should have seen that as well.
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gbguy20
12 years ago
he has since deleted the tweet but finley spoke out saying those are not is thoughts.

jones also spoke out on the subject of rodgers yelling at him:

http://blog.packers.com/2012/09/18/jones-not-upset-with-rodgers/ 
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play2win
12 years ago

Prime example of people quick to slam Finley for things unnecessary. We want people to speak their mind, but when they do, they become targets. The mob = the stupid. Now we should trade Finley because of his agents comments??? Yeah, point the finger at Finley.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



FYI, Finley is on pace to more than DOUBLE his drop total from 2011.

His agent's comments, along with his own subpar play, make me question just about everything regarding Jermichael Finley. Until I start seeing more of a commitment to our team's success, I will have my doubts.
gbguy20
12 years ago

FYI, Finley is on pace to more than DOUBLE his drop total from 2011.

His agent's comments, along with his own subpar play, make me question just about everything regarding Jermichael Finley. Until I start seeing more of a commitment to our team's success, I will have my doubts.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



That's like saying clay matthews will end the season with 48 sacks...

2 games is way too small of a sample size folks. also, those plays that are considered "drops"
weren't all the easiest catches in the world.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago
I don't know how agent contracts are setup.

If it's easy for Finley to dump his contract and find another agent (that is, if he plans to stay on the Packers), he should find another agent.

🇦🇷 is 🇹🇹's boy. He's not going anywhere.

Very unprofessional for an agent to say this about the Packers best player since the Lombardi years.
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
Baratz just went on my "Asshole List" right next to Drew Rottencrocth. Is it worth keeping Finley if he's going to retain an agent like this...I don't know? Just asking...because it could be a cancer as others have mentioned. Talking up your own player is one thing...talking down another player is something else.
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play2win
12 years ago

Then why not question Bishop since he has the same agent?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Des Bishop is one of the best players on our team. He has been 100% prepared going into every game he's played, and has shown himself to be a team player. Finley OTOH has the history of pouting and complaining when things didn't go his way. Granted, Finley has not done much of that since we won the SB. However, he did plenty of bitching prior to that, and that is why I am calling these comments by his agent into question.

Regardless, those are strong words Baratz chose to use, they make little sense, and they raise many questions.
Pack93z
12 years ago

I don't know how agent contracts are setup.

If it's easy for Finley to dump his contract and find another agent (that is, if he plans to stay on the Packers), he should find another agent.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 


If I read your comments correct.. thoughts. Although after posting.. maybe the contract you mention is between agent and players.. if so.. never mind. lol.

He wouldn't dump his contract with the Packers.. his contract is valid unless voided by the club.

Finley could dump his agent now and retain a new one, however the new agent would garner no compensation from Finley's current deal. That money is already due to his current agent, any cut would still go to him if he dumps the agent.

Depending on the contract between Finley and Baratz.. there may be other clauses in which one or the other owes money.. but that would have no bearing on the contract between Finley and the Packers.
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PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago

Des Bishop is one of the best players on our team. He has been 100% prepared going into every game he's played, and has shown himself to be a team player. Finley OTOH has the history of pouting and complaining when things didn't go his way. Granted, Finley has not done much of that since we won the SB. However, he did plenty of bitching prior to that, and that is why I am calling these comments by his agent into question.

Regardless, those are strong words Baratz chose to use, they make little sense, and they raise many questions.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I've seen bishop mess up plays and miss assignemts, probably as much as Finley. It just doesn't get the publicity because he is on defense and it doesn't stand out as much. The entier History of pouting and complaining has been greatly blown out of proportion. He just keeps himself in the public more than Bishop. That has no bearing on how well they are prepared. Nothing like speculation.
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